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This is one of the big mysteries of history. The main suspects are: RICHARD III HENRY VII THE DUKE of BUCKINGHAM The above names have alawys been the only real suspects to the murders, however it has recently come to light that there in fact is another...HENRY VII's mother MARGARET! Who do YOU think did it? |
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Much has been written about the death of the princes in the tower. The story of Richards involvement only started forty years after their deaths. At that time, the Tudor reign was very tenuous and closer asperants to the throne were raising their heads above the gorse, and a 'witness' was needed to discredit the Plantaganents, hence one of the watchmen at the tower came forth and Shakespear wrote his play. (Old WS knew what side of the crumpet his butter was on) There is a book now out of print, called Daughter of our Time. If you see it in the second hand shops or a yard sale, get it! |
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| | From:  MarkGB5 | Sent: 3/25/2007 2:14 PM |
Suspicion of Richard's involvement began weeks not decades after the Princes' disappearance. In January 1484 Guillaume de Rochefort, Chancellor of France reported to the Estates General : "Look, I pray you, at the events that have taken place in that country since the death of King Edward. Think of his children, already big and strong, murdered with impunity and the Crown transferred to their murderer by the will of the people". Richard III was prime suspect then and rightly remains so. |
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I must point out that since Brittany was on the verge of extraditing Henry Tudor to England after RIIIs accession, he scampered off to France, & was there at the time this accusation was made by the French chancellor. |
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Thank you for the actuall title of the book. My mother had a dog eared copy
for years. She was an advocate of RIII believing that he was the rightfull
heir to the throne. The Tudors, she contended, were usurpers.
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Well, the fifteenth century was full of usurpers. Richard III usurped the throne from Edward V, Edward IV usurped the throne from Henry VI (twice) and Henry IV usupred it from Richard II. Usurping was a popular 15th century sport for royalty. Louise |
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Usurping was a popular 15th century sport for royalty. |
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Since this thread has been resurrected, allow me to hurl out a suspect we haven't considered at all yet (just play along you anti-Ricardians LOL) & get some thoughts on it. JASPER TUDOR, EARL OF PEMBROKE Jasper Tudor, Henry VIIs fraternal uncle, was unceasing in his efforts to preserve the last scion of the House of Lancaster. He was basically the brains of the Lancastrian outfit after Somerset was killed at St Albans, & masterminded Henry Tudor's conquest with his keen tactical skills. His wife, incidentally, was Catherine Woodville, Buckingham's widow. Could Jasper have tied up this particular loose end on Henry's behalf? Begatswise & totally irrelevant to this thread, an interesting lil bit of Tudor Trivia....tho Jasper & Catherine had no issue in their four year marriage, he did acknowledge two bastard daughters. Helen, who grew up to be the mother of none other than Mary's pal Stephen Gardiner, & Joan, who was Oliver Cromwell's great-great-great-great grandma.  |
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OK no takers on FAs hurling in of Jasper Tudor?  Let's try these peeps on for size, then: THE HOWARDS? Thomas Howard, Earl of Surrey (our Norfolk's papa) was tight with RIII in the brief reign of Edward V. Allegedly he's the one who, on RIIIs behalf, lured Hastings to his death, & he also had the pleasure of arresting Jane Shore, EIVs mistress, later on in the proceedings. His daddy, John Howard, also was mighty unfussed about the Norfolk dukedom remaining a title of Richard Duke of York's following the death of Richard's wife Anne Mowbray, the heiress to such, as the Howards would've been next in line for this according to their cousinly begats (& eventually they DID get it back from HVII). In the aftermath of Bosworth, all of RIIIs intimate circle were attainted....except for ol Surrey there Now how come, that? Had the Howards done HVII a big favor....say, like eliminating HVIIs competition? Hmmm..... |
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I read a book about Jane Shore before, think it was by Jean Plaidy, but once again can't remember the name of the book...If I remember right, the ending had her wandering the streets in poverty to an old age....Does anyone have any more info about her? Just remembered "The Goldsmith's Wife". |
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 Sorry I put this in a wrong thread, but she came to mind seeing her name above. |
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Can you tell me about this information, as I have never heard anything about Margaret being remotely involved with the Princes before, my own opinion is that it was Henry, I feel he had the best motive!! |
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| I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that thinks Margaret may have masterminded it, no I don't think she actually did it, but she paid, threatened, something to get someone else to do it in my opinion she was obsessed. Or maybe Henry VII could have his mother was obsessed and he had been raised to be King she could have put it in his head and he in another's. |
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Richard did it. He had means, motive, and opportunity. Everybody at the time thought he had made away with them. It was only centuries afterwards that people started coming up with all these fanciful theories that someone else might have done it. |
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