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| | From:  Isaiah· (Original Message) | Sent: 3/24/2003 11:55 PM |
| I love you Jesus | | Biblical Expressions of Worship* You will discover that biblical expressions of worship are still practiced today. Join in with us as we praise God together in spirit and in truth.  | WE PRAY TOGETHER ALOUD because in the Bible we read, "They lifted up their voices to God with one accord." Acts 4:24. | | WE LIFT OUR HANDS IN PRAISE because in the Bible we read, "Lift up your hands in the sanctuary, and bless the Lord." Psalms 134:2. | | WE SING WITH ALL HEARTS because in the Bible we read, "Make a joyful noise unto the LORD, all the earth; make a loud noise, and rejoice, and sing praise." Psalms 98:4. | | WE PLAY MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS because in the Bible we read, "And all the house of Israel played before the Lord on all manner of instruments." II Samuel 6:5. | | WE CLAP AND SHOUT UNTO GOD because in the Bible we read, "O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph." Psalms 47:1. | | WE DANCE BEFORE THE LORD because in the Bible we read, "Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs." Psalms 150:4. | | WE TESTIFY PUBLICLY because in the Bible we read, "I will declare thy name unto my brethren; in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee." Psalms 22:22. | | WE ANOINT WITH OIL FOR DIVINE HEALING because in the Bible we read, "Is there any sick among you? Let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord." James 5:14. | | WE ALLOW THE OPERATION OF THE SPIRITUAL GIFTS because in the Bible we read, "When ye come together, every one of you hath a Psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation." I Corinthians 14:26. | 
Psalm 150, "Praise ye the Lord. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power. [2] Praise him for his mighty acts: praise him according to his excellent greatness. [3] Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp. [4] Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs. [5] Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals. [6] Let every thing that hath breath praise the Lord. Praise ye the Lord." Lord you are so worthy to be praised 
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Raheyl, I have been thinking about your 'name'. I wonder if this is a nick, or your real name? You do not have to answer unless you just want to. But the reason I am wondering, several years ago, app. 16 or 17, somewhere in there, when I was doing my CNA classes, A lady was in our class whose name sounded as this looks like it would sound. It sounded like: rail. I have never known anyone else with that name. She was from another country, not born here in America. Just wondering......probably not the same person. what a coincidence if it were! JO |
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Very good Freeborn When we are worshiping and praising Jesus, we are worshippimg God. Not that he is Almighty God, which he is not. But Almighty God set him to be praise, he did not set himself up. It is so bad to see someone be so deceived in thinking that we should not praise and worship the Lord Jesus Christ. He is the one that went to that cross and died for our sins. He is the one that went t o the cross and endured it and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. We are told in several places in the bible where he was worshipped. | And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and WORSHIPPED him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh. | | And, behold, there came a leper and WORSHIPPED him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean. | | Then they that were in the ship came and WORSHIPPED him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God. | | Then came she and WORSHIPPED him, saying, Lord, help me. | | The servant therefore fell down, and WORSHIPPED him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. | | And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and WORSHIPPED him. | | And when they saw him, they WORSHIPPED him: but some doubted. | | But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and WORSHIPPED him, | | And they WORSHIPPED him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy: | There are many more wher it shows they worshipped him. Like I said before we are to worshipped and praise his name and I will continue to. If no one else will, I know myself and Freeborn will. Don't be deceived in thinking it is wrong to praise Jesus. |
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Lord Jesus, you are so worthy to be praised and worshipped |
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Freeborn, To answer your question about my name, Yes Raheyl (Ra-heel) to better understand how to pronounce it, is my real name, and I was born in America. Please feel free to ask what you want to know. Freeborn do you say that i am misguided because i believe in one God the God who created Jesus and all man kind? |
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Raheyl, I also believe in the one God who is the creator. But I also know that this one God consists of many members, truly INNUMERABLE. THE WORD ONE is NOT referring to a number, saying how many. It is the meaning of being perfectly united in harmony and perfect love. God is a full kingdom, not just 1 being. I know that the world has been totally deceived about this truth. Jesus was not a created person, as was Adam and Eve. He was born as we were, only without a natural daddy. the Holy Ghost overshadowed Mary and brought about that conception. But that did not cause Jesus to be God. Jesus was not God. Jesus was a full human being. This is where the world is again deceived. BUT that does not mean we are not to worship and praise Jesus. He is the one we must worship. God said to honour my Son even AS you honour me. this means the very same way. The Scripture says that everything we do, we are to do in the Name of Jesus Christ. else God will not even have you. So your worship is totally in vain, when you try to get around worshipping Jesus. This automaticly cuts you off from the God you think you are serving. that is how much God said we are to love, worship, and honour Jesus. He is our God. because God set this so. He, Jesus, is our Father. God is his father. We are children of God, only through Jesus Christ. You cannot get to God without coming through Jesus christ, his shed blood, via water baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. God will not remit, or remove you sins any other way. Acts 2. Acts 10, 8. and 19. This is the true plan of salvation. Then you must receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost according to how it came on the Day of Pentecost. Again Acts 2. to try to go any other way is to try to outdo God and come some way other than the way he set up and demands. Jesus is different from any other being, in that he was virgin born, died for the sins of the whole world. and is now set up on the throne of God to be worshipped and to rule as God. This is the decree of God., and to reject this, is to reject and disobey the true God. Now all of this is the Word of God, not some man's word, and not some organization's word. Which will you accept? man or God. until you come through Jesus Christ, honouring him exactly as you do God, you do not have God, and he is not with you. Yes, you are very much misguided. And I hope you will stay right here and study with Isaiah and me. We both can and will teach you the truth of God. we prove everything we say with Written Scripture. This is the only truth there is. Did you ever take CNA? Maybe the person I knew was born in America, not sure, but she was not of some Eastern decent, I think. I hope you will not take offence at any thing we say, for we say it out of love and a desire to help others find the right way of salvation. Do you wish to have eternal life? Isaiah, you gave a mighty good message on worshipping Jesus. God will not accept anyone's worship, unless we worship Jesus, and do it in Jesus' name. |
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| | | From: Isaiah | Sent: 9/4/2006 8:24 PM |
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 1ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one MEDIATOR between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; As Christians, we understand that Jesus is “The Way�? “The Truth�? “The Life�?and there is no other way to the Father and heaven, but by Him. God is our Father! Jesus Christ is the mediator ( his son, the man Christ Jesus;} Mt 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and NARROW is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. |
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Yes, Isaiah, That in John is what I wanted to show Rayhle, that Jesus is the only way to the Father. It is a shame to so many people have been cheated out of knowing this. All I have to do is say praise you Lord, or thank you Jesus, and I feel his sweetness blessing me. I pity those who do not have this constant joy in their lives. And it is a shame, for it is available to all who obey the Word. |
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Freeborn, No matter how you put the number one, it is still number one, you can't add anything to one and it still remains one, now if you are saying one of many thats a different thing. The only beings in Gods heaven is He and His angels. Jesus was created in the womb of Mary with out the aid of man. Sence we both know that Jesus is not lord, than why worship other than God alone. We are not Gods children, God had no wife, we are children of Adam, we are also apart of Gods creation. You also stated that God was man on this earth and that he died and entered hell for our sins. It clearly states in the bible that no man can bare the sins of another.You said that Jesus died for the sins of the world, Then why is there still sin in the world? Freeborn i would never take offence of what you are saying, you are only telling me what you believe. I think i'll stick around for a while, this site is very interesting, you are a easy person to talk to. You are trying hard to know more about me, well let me satisfy your curiousity. My name is Raheyl, I live in Detroit, Michigan. Yes i was a cna quite some time ago. In what city do you live? If you don't mind, what is your real name? |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 9/4/2006 10:56 PM |
Hi Raheyl, My name is Jo Smith. I live in Georgia. Did you attend Cna in Georgia? If not, you are not the one I knew. Now, You have taken something wrong. I have not said God was man on earth. No, I do not teach that Jesus was God. That is why so many people are against me, because I teach that Jesus was NOT God. I say he is our God now, because God told us to worship His Son, and because the spirit of the Lord God is now the eternal abode of Jesus = they are spiritually one or married. Jesus is now in full power and authority as God. God set him so. Read Heb. one. Now look up the word ONE in a dictionary. It has many more meanings than the digit 1. I did not say the 'number' 1. I said it is not a number. When the Word says they are ONE, it means they are in perfect agreement and harmony and love. It means they are equals. Read John 17. Jesus here prayed for us ALL TO BE ONE EVEN AS THEY (HIS FATHER AND HE) ARE ONE. Paul then said we are all ONE. Now does that sound like we are just 1 person? Of course not. Jesus did die for the sins of the whole world. He was the one and only sacrifice God has ever or will ever accept for sins. He was the LAMB of God. God did NOT want those OT animal sacrifices. (too much to teach you now) If Jesus had not taken all our sins on himself, we would all end up in hell fire. Now the reason sin is still in this world, and most people are still sinners, is because they REJECT THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS AND REFUSE TO OBEY HIM AND WORSHIP HIM AND REPENT OF THEIR SIN AND LET HIM FILL THEN WITH THE HOLY GHOST. All who reject Jesus, and do not obey his plan of salvation, will die in sin and be lost--- in hell fire. I hope this does not happen to you. I am glad you like it here and I do hope you stay. God bless you, Jo |
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Hi Jo, No i didn't take CNA trainning in Georga, I took it at the ren-cen center here in Detroit. I was living in Atlanta, but I had to come back to Detroit to take care of my mother.Jo i really can't grasp what you have learned about Jesus, your concept of Jesus just doesn't make a lot of sence to me. If you don't mind, I would like to tell you what i was taught about Jesus. I was taught that Jesus was a messanger of God, and was sent to the Jews with the torah, teaching them to worship none but God and God alone. That Jesus was mortal man, and could only perform maricles by the will of God. Jesus had no father in heaven or on earth and that he worshiped the same God as the Christians, Jews and the Muslims. Jesus did not die on a cross, God would never forsake those who follow him. God said that no man can take the sins of another, that every man will stand before God with his own sins to be judged God will never punish one person for anothers sins. Jesus never saw hell nor did he ever enter it. Jesus had no wife there for he had no children. God Almighty had no wife, there for he had no children. God told US to multiply and be fruitiful, we are children of each other. Our fathers are the ones we were born to, they are the only fathers we will ever have. By the will of God Jesus will return, no one knows the day or time but God alone. |
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Hi Raheyl, Well, I am disappointed that you are not the Raheyl which I knew. anyway I am glad to meet you this way. Now I know that you are coming from the Kingdom hall folks. I knew that from the start. All I can say to you is their teachings are certainly not of God. That organization is not of God. Now I know that I cannot make you believe this, but I am saying to you, that unless you get into the true Word of God, ( I strongly recommend the KJV, that is the only one I trust) and study it and allow God to show you from his own Word what the truth is, then you will totally miss eternal life and will end up in hell, for rejecting the true sacrifice which Jesus made for us. Jesus died on that cross to take away our sins. God placed all the sins of the world onto Jesus as if he had done them all. Then when Jesus died, he went into hell fire for us, to pay the debt for us. Now since Jesus did that , and paid the price for all our sins, God is only just to send all to hell who deny His Son and reject his cleansing and sacrifice. You are being deceived by Satan's group and they will stop at nothing to keep you in darkness, so you cannot find salvation. The joy of the Holy Ghost is so real and wonderful, when you receive it, you have no doubt. It is glorious beyond words. The joy of worshipping Jesus and feeling his glorious presence blessing you is undescribable. it is truly a shame and disgrace that most people are missing this by listening to false teachers who are God's enemies. and they are your worst enemies, for they keep you from God. You do not have the true God, for he will not come to anyone denying the work of Jesus in this manner which you describe. But I do appreciate your telling me. I hope you can open your heart and listen to the truth we teach here. I prove every single word I say with Written Scripture. If one cannot believe the Written Scripture, they are out of it altogether and will never see life. Life comes only from those words of God. I mean real life, not our temporal life. We will pay for our own sins......that is if they are not REMITTED. This means WIPPED OUT, OR GOD FORGETS THEM AND HOLDS THEM AGAINST US NO MORE. The only way this can be accomplished is to obey the gospel taught in the Book of Acts. This is the only plan of salvation. If you cannot believe this truth, then you cannot be saved. Jesus will cleanse you from all you sin if you believe him and obey his Word. Then you will have no sin to have to pay for. Isn't that glorious! What more could a person want? Why would they rather stay in a dead, boring old religion, which works you to death for their own benefit, and you receive no benefit at all, when you could come to Jesus and have life and have it more abundantly.? Why trade eternal life in glory beyond our comprehension, for this dead old religion, and then die and go to the hell they told you does not exist? Think it over. What are you getting from this dead religion? They cannot heal you. They cannot give you joy. they cannot give you hope of eternal life. Jesus can and does. He has done all of this for me. I love him with all my heart. This love is also with his Father. He is my father. I am his child. We are children of God when he places his Spirit into us. Hope you can ''hear'' this. (try to read some of the messages I have placed back at the top of the all topics. they will help you understand the truth about Jesus and God.) Jo |
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Hi Freeborn, I would like to know what book, or bible do you study from? and of what denomination are you? |
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Hi Raheyl, I study only from the King James Scriptures. I am not of any denomination. I do not go to any church or organazation. I have heard other versions of the Word quoted, read, and written. I simply do not like any of them, do not feel the glory of God in them and do not need them. From the KJV I learn all I need. Every single question in it has the answer in it. Every word is explained in some other verse. It is most BEAUTIFUL and supernaturally put together, from Genesis, through Revelation. Glory beyond compare, when the glorious God explains it to someone and shows how it all goes together in perfection. This is one of my hardest places of battle....when men try to say this Holy Word is wrong, and must have some other book tell us what it means, and that their are lies in this Book. That is lies of the devil. When some other book, message, or whatever crosses what the KJV Says, then I know it is wrong. when I was very small, I went to a Pentecostal church. loved it. But then our daddy made us leave there and start going to the Baptist church. I grew up there. Never felt fed. Never had anyone explain my hunger to know the Word. They did not understand and did not care to discuss it. I played the piano in the church and also taught the ladies Sunday School class, at the time I left there. I kind of hated to give up my 'work'. But when God spoke directly to me and told me to leave that church and never go back, I knew it was God and I obeyed. I went back to my childhood Holiness church. There I received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, at the age 25. I was angry and upset that the Baptist preachers had lied to me, telling me this is not right, and thus cheated me of this glory all that long. I would have received it much sooner had I known it was right. After a few years God again told me to leave. I did. Then after two more 'moves' God told me to quit going altogether. Then He began teaching me himself. He then taught me how to have faith and live by faith. I had no idea what FAITH was UNTIL I QUIT ALL CHURCHES. When God explained the Scripture to me, I saw crystal clear, that everything the churches teach is false and most of it is lies. I was then in a home-setting, prayer, study group. This had more of the glory of God in it than anything else I have ever been in. Then preachers came along, took over that, and destroyed it. So today, I am all alone, Just my Scripture, My Jesus, this computer work, and a few Christain friends whom I teach and discuss things with. I have more with God today than I ever had in any church. Would not go back for all this world. So tell me about yourself, if you like. I would like to hear it. Jo |
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Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. Gal. 6:7, 8
I took the above verses from Delfraths devotions. I had this thought, which I have never had concerning this passage before. Jesus said the Word is the seed which was sown into our field or heart, mind. I have always thought of the above verse as meaning if one does sin. I am sure most people think this also. but as I read this today, I thought of it as sowing the seed or Word into our hearts. If one sows the seed into their mind, as meaning carnal, natural things, then they will reap corruption, for they are bringing the Word of God down to a carnal, not spiritual Word, or seed. Therefore their minds are, as Paul said, DARKENED. Thus, they do not find the light or truth, and cannot be saved. But if we understand or discern the Word as it truly is, SPIRITUAL, then we will reap life everlasting from the Seed we show into our field. I am sure this is the more truthful interpretation of the above verses. Yet I have never heard this taught, so always thought of it as I had heard. So we all need to sow spiritual seed from the Word, into our hearts. Just think of how many poor souls are deceived into looking into men's writtings for their 'seed' thoughts, and end up calling God a lie. They will doom their souls into hell for this error. They set man's words above God's words. Jo |
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