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 If you are offended easily, or are thin skinned, then you don't wanna post here. We are endeavoring to give more leeway on this board. That means topics can get heated real quick. I don't want folks leaving the group, because their feelings are hurt. Consider this your warning!!!  We got the message loud and clear, that folks wanted us to be more liberal on this board, well now you got it. I don't want nothing here, carried over to the General Board. That board is designed for those who would like to post without fear of contention. Thank you in advance for your cooperation."                                                             Bro Bryan

I was wondering about how Jesus filled up the law. I was reflecting on this when I bumped into this post. I am growing more fond of the words of Jesus before the Pharisees than ever before. Bro Bryan, I do not criticize your management in the slightest and I have no desire to offend. I respect your liberal position as much as I respect the man who lifts the higher standard. We both know that Jesus is that standard. We both understand the Mystery concerning Christ and the Church.

It is this standard to which I make my appeal, that Jesus called marriage one flesh. I believe that you are a man of God. Surely we both are able to see the day that is approaching. I pray that you are as vigilant and forthright then as you are presently with such words of valour as presented in red.

A marriage ceremony (wedding) is no more a marriage than a staged funeral makes anyone deader. Surely we know what marriage is. Therefore I would ask that you suffer me a little in the foolishness of my preaching that the Wisdom of God should be revealed. For I find, much like you, that I must also preach, and if in these last days so many have forgotten what marriage is, and have not known the mystery, it seemeth fitting for me to preach on the subject of marriage wherever I go. Certain questions have been met with deafening silence and many have not been answered directly. That is fine. Perhaps brothers and sisters are thinking and that is a good thing. The standard that I (and others) have lifted here addresses a certain matter of vigilance among men. It is not my intention to humble any women here.

The matter of one flesh is a serious subject. The standard states that any woman that a man takes to become one flesh with in voluntary union is married in the sight of God. I believe this to be the higher standard than those lifted by pen to paper and, it would appear that according to the covenant of Christ, this is indeed the case. The message is a call to responsibility. It lifts the sword of truth before the muzzles of the dogs who think that they may marry in the flesh and run. It commands that men take responsibility for the women they take to wife and justifies godly marriage in the face of fornication. Not many men have taken one wife only in the sight of God. Let them be shame faced if they have not upheld the true standard. I will make no excuses for those who pretend to what they would call monogamy. I lift the standard higher, and I lift it unto my Lord.

The time has come to stop robbing the truly monogamous and call a spade a spade. If this should trouble the hearts of others than let them consider the hearts of the troubled children that they leave in their wake of pretentious marriage. Surely we do see a certain day approaching where men of God refuse to submit to such tactics as wiping the dust of their feet under the carpets to leave forgotten children at the hands of government officials to care for the nameless. (To be polite.)

Yes, God help us, and may God save the children. Let them be sanctified in the name of Jesus. Marriage has indeed become a messy business and I am certain this is only one more reason that our LORD pointed to it concerning these days. There is no reason that any saints of God should be frivolous about marriage and we know that innocence cannot be pretended. For those who have looked around them at the world for nearly 50 years should see that the day approaches when godly men take responsibility for their wives, as they should, and fully renounce all ties to Caesar, and that same secular government child care where Mr. and Mr. smith have agreed to be the "god" parents of Ms. and Ms.'s Lesbiano's newly born vitro baby.... who have proven themselves worthy to be parents of that additional child born forgotten, because that "old man's" frolicking in the flesh is all washed away in the blood and he is now officially married with a government endorsed piece of paper! (Covered in... )Please, the standard must be lifted to what Jesus called it from the beginning.

...to return to the ancient land marks, seeing now how that the day is at hand. Brethren, I would not have you be ignorant...

The day is at hand. Let the saints of God stand for what God calls marriage. 


Here is another oxymoron exposed: pre-marital sex. Pre-marital sex is a lie that satan devised to make us think that ONE FLESH  isn't surely marriage. It is the same tactic used of the serpent when it stated the lie, "Ye shall not surely die." But God said that in the day that you eat of it YE SHALL SURELY DIE and God doesn't lie. If you play with fire you will surely get burned. This is scriptural. (See Proverbs 6:27.) If you willingly engaged in the sex act to become l'basar echad (one flesh) even for the first time, with a partner of the opposite gender, you have surely married them and, if you did it again with another partner of the opposite gender, then you have surely REMARRIED. Don't ... let anyone... including your pastor, tell you otherwise. God calls it ONE FLESH  and that is what marriage is.

God's rules concerning marriage have never changed and they will not change until heaven and earth pass away. The original ordinance still stands as solid and true as it did in the day that JESUS first declared it in Eden and just as surely as He addressed the matter before the Pharisees, so it is today. If you want to declare your marital intentions toward one another before the assembly as husband and wife in a wedding ceremony before you marry, to obtain the blessing of a pastor ordained of God, that is commendable; but please do not confuse such ceremony or ritual for godly marriage unless it has already been consumated. A wedding is not a marriage. Understand that there will be no marriage or giving in marriage in the resurrection.

Marriage is finite. It ends at death. Neither can there be any divorcement without the authentic death of a marriage. When JESUS said, Let the dead bury the dead He wasn't just talking about a physical death; but this still does not make the dead any less dead. If JESUS called them dead then they are dead. Now God cannot lie and the scripture cannot be broken. Therefore we, who are alive in JESUS, surely do not practice divorcement from those who are also alive in JESUS; but concerning the dead it is also written, a brother or sister is not under bondage in such cases. God's law of sin and death will NOT hold you in bondage to a corpse while you are alive in JESUS! Neither are any of God's children bound in marriage to a paper contract of "civil marriage" that God never wrote, or ordained, in the first place. Let's be real about this and let's stick with the Word of God. Wherefore it is written:

Romans 7

1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? 2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

Notice that the Apostle in his wisdom used the law of the husbandman in this case with respect to the wife. There is no "law of the wifewoman" in the scripture, and for good reason �?if God's law applied to men and women equally in every respect the entire Bible would contradict itself. Paul is not merely talking about carnal marriage here, but is using the example of marriage to teach the congregation that baptism in Jesus name is in fact a marriage or union with Christ in Spirit. Read all of Romans 7 and if your heart is honest, I'm confident that you will agree.

Please know that all "pre-marital sex" culminating in ONE FLESH is in fact, only one more nefariously twisted invention of man, such as "serial monogamy" (secular remarriage) �?/FONT> a worldly euphemism for secular polygamy. Make no mistake about it: If any of you men reading this message have become one flesh with more than one virgin in your life time and she voluntarily received you, then you have verily taken more than one woman to wife ; and if they joined to you willingly, God's law says you may not put either of them away for the rest of your days! You are SURELY a "polygamist" according to the world's understanding of such; but this secular word, "polygamy" is not found in scripture and, consequently, it is subject to corruption in the filthy minds of those who secretly desire to examine such things privily, having carnal minds without understanding. Evenso the scripture makes allowance for two wives and the scripture cannot be broken. Men, you do not get off the hook so easily.

So many have ignorantly caused a spouse (they never even knew they had) to commit adultery in this fashion, dismissing the sins of their youth and PUTTING AWAY what God calls ONE FLESH to be washed away by the Blood of the Lamb, without realizing that taking a virgin in the flesh is indeed marriage  in the sight of God. (See: EXODUS 22:17; DEUTERONOMY 22: 28-29) Therefore God is just to tell us that He hates putting away!!! Putting away is a great sin and ignorance is no justification for it. Don't let any ignorant papist ever tell you that these laws are done away with or that these laws are only the dietary laws and commandments contained in the ordinances of the Levitical priesthood. They are every bit as much a part of God's law as the Ten Commandments that still apply today.

Too many worldly pastors want to sweep God's law under the carpet but that is also why there is so much sickness and death in the Church, says the scripture. Either God still recognizes l'basar echad d'x,a r'f'b.l (one flesh) as being holy and sanctified marriage, even honourable in the Holy Spirit, and the marriage bed undefiled, or else it is nothing more than fornication (adultery, pornography, bestiality, whoredom, prostitution, etc.). Oh yes, an harlot hath many "husbands" in the flesh but if a virgin marries, [has sex with a man] she has not sinned. Dear brothers and sisters... God calls marriage ONE FLESH (sanctified or not) and God does not lie. "Pre-marital sex" is more truthfully called pre-wedding sex. Marriages that do not include a partner who has received the HOLY SPIRIT are not yet sanctified. They are in a state of spiritual fornication (uncleanness) or worse. Your flesh will never justify you.

Now what God has put together let NOT MAN (secular government, papist pastors, any mortal) put asunder. Please let the twain be one flesh and let the children be sanctified in Jesus' name. I paid too dearly for this knowledge. Had I followed the Holy Bible more closely (instead of listening to pastors too ashamed to preach the truth about marriage) I would have been better off. For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel! For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me. Please get educated in the Word of God. Don't take my word for it, I beseech you to look it up and be blessed in the knowledge of His truth.

JT