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From: "Jacobs_Trouble" <[email protected]>
To: "Managers of The Strait and Narrow Way" <[email protected]>
Subject: DO NOT MUZZLE THE OX
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:23:20 -0800


New Message to all the managers of The Strait and Narrow Way


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From: Jacobs_Trouble

Bro Bryan
 
In the event that you did not manage to read my opening statement to you on the thread that I suspected _Oneness had provided for me, I include it here. I am also including a copy of a post that I made on a board in reply to a board using my name that I am required not to post on. In other words my name is being used against me again. These would take liberty with my name and yet forbid me to reply to the same board that uses it. I think this is vile and certainly not becoming to the behavior of true apostolics.
 
Here is my opening statement that I made on the message board provided for me by _Oneness:

I was wondering about how Jesus filled up the law. I was reflecting on this when I bumped into this post. I am growing more fond of the words of Jesus before the Pharisees than ever before. Bro Bryan, I do not criticize your management in the slightest and I have no desire to offend. I respect your liberal position as much as I respect the man who lifts the higher standard. We both know that Jesus is that standard. We both understand the Mystery concerning Christ and the Church.

It is this standard to which I make my appeal, that Jesus called marriage one flesh. I believe that you are a man of God. Surely we both are able to see the day that is approaching. I pray that you are as vigilant and forthright then as you are presently with such words of valour as presented in red:

" If you are offended easily, or are thin skinned, then you don't wanna post here. We are endeavoring to give more leeway on this board. That means topics can get heated real quick. I don't want folks leaving the group, because their feelings are hurt. Consider this your warning!!!  We got the message loud and clear, that folks wanted us to be more liberal on this board, well now you got it. I don't want nothing here, carried over to the General Board. That board is designed for those who would like to post without fear of contention. Thank you in advance for your cooperation."   Bro Bryan 

A marriage ceremony (wedding) makes no more a marriage than a staged funeral makes anyone deader. Surely we know what marriage is. Therefore I would ask that you would suffer me a little in the foolishness of my preaching that the Wisdom of God should be revealed. For I find, much like you, that I must also preach, and if in these last days so many have forgotten what marriage is, and have not known the mystery, it seemeth also fitting for me to preach on the subject of marriage wherever I go. Certain questions have been met with deafening silence and many have not been answered directly. That is fine. Perhaps brothers and sisters are thinking and that is a good thing. The standard that I (and others) have lifted here addresses a certain matter of vigilance among men. It is not my intention to humble any women here.

The matter of one flesh is a serious subject. The standard states that any woman that a man takes to become one flesh with in voluntary union is married in the sight of God. I believe this to be the higher standard than those lifted by pen to paper and, it should be evident that according to the covenant of Christ, this is indeed the case. The message is a call to responsibility. It verily lifts the sword of truth before the muzzles of the dogs who think that they may marry in the flesh and run. It commands that men take responsibility for the women they take to wife and justifies godly marriage in the face of fornication. Not many men have taken one wife only in the sight of God. Let them be shame faced if they have not upheld the true standard. I will no longer make excuses for those who pretend to what they would call monogamy. I lift the standard higher, and I lift it unto my Lord.

The time has come to stop robbing the truly monogamous and call a spade a spade. If this should trouble the hearts of others than let them consider the hearts of the troubled children that they leave in their wake of pretentious marriage. Surely we do see a day approaching where men of God refuse to submit to such tactics as wiping the dust of their feet under the carpets to leave forgotten children at the hands of government officials to care for the nameless. (To be polite.)

Yes, God help us, and may God save the children... Let them be sanctified in the name of Jesus. Marriage has indeed become a messy business and I am certain this is only one more reason that our LORD pointed to it concerning these days. There is no reason that any saints of God should be frivolous about marriage and we know that innocence cannot be pretended. For those of us who have looked around them at the world for nearly 50 years should see that the day approaches when godly men start taking responsibility for their wives, as they should, and fully renounce all ties to Caesar, and that same secular government child care where Mr. and Mr. smith have agreed to be the "god" parents of Ms. and Ms.'s Lesbiano's newly born vitro baby.... who live in reproach and denial ... and deemed worthy of "rulers" to be parents of that additional child born forgotten, because that "old man's" frolicking in the flesh is all washed away in the blood and he is now officially married with a government endorsed piece of paper to another! (Covered in... ??? ) Please, the standard must be lifted to what Jesus called it from the beginning.

...to return to the ancient land marks, seeing now how that the day is at hand....

                Brethren, I would not have you be ignorant...

The day is at hand. Let the saints of God stand for what God calls marriage


commentary to management:
 
It would seem that for the above position on the debate board, that I am attacked, not with reason, nor in decency, but through malice and contempt. Even to delete posts and to answer in such a fashion that has made it look as though I used words that I did not type. I can assure you that the terminology and the witness being used against me is false. I would not speak of these words as they use them against me, except in renouncing them for what they are: worldly and unscriptural. I do not encourage the extended use of them in the Strait and Narrow Way except to point out how these are not scriptural and are not found in the Authorized King James Bible and to expose them for the erroneous inventions that they are. I prefer to stay with the Word in the course of my discussions. I can assure you that I am not promoting what THEY think I promote, and the allegations that I promote POLYGAMY (if I may make reference to such a word) as they say I do, is hitting me below the belt. These do not know how to "play fair" and I find little in the implimentation of such tactics that could be called forthright.
 
My own ministry is about godly marriage. My goal is to wake brothers (and sisters) up to the truth that they can not commit fornication and get away with it. My methods may seem somewhat "unorthodox" in the eyes of my accusers but they work. Neither do I promote the "multiplying" of wives, but rather, for men to take responsibility for the wives that they have already taken and to stop pretending that they can take more than one in a life time and NOT ... call it polygyny because that is precisely what it is, no matter what flavor of fornication they would care to attribute to it. Those who are not comfortable with the facts should repent of such behaviors as condemning those who openly admit that they have indeed been married more than once. Fortunately I am thick skinned and enjoy a good debate. So far, all that I have had for the most part are hecklers, bo-hissers, and assistant managers flex their muscles at me. The debates are going poorly. I have not engaged in a single, intelligent, scriptural, discussion about the subject of godly marriage since I accepted _Oneness' generous offer by posting only on that board concerning this topic.
 
Many posts have been deleted that have not in any way, according to the 23 rules I have read thus far pertaining to this forum, been violated, to the best of my understanding. I think this is a great group and I have no intentions of violating the rules. It would seem that by implication I am being set-up to look as though I am stating and supporting things in my posts that I am not stating at all.
 
That by the removal of my posts and replying with comments like "WE DO NOT SUPPORT POLYGAMY", and other such explictives, that they would suggest that I have a harem some place and I am "multiplying wives", or that I am a Mormon or something to that effect, or worse. I will concede to the proverb that a rose by any other name is still a rose, but I will not concede, or stoop, to think that godly marriage is what they would call it. I reitarate: I do not believe in, or support, polygamy any more than I believe in, or support, monogamy. Neither term is scriptural. What I believe in, is Jesus; and I support the belief that Jesus supports and believes in GODLY MARRIAGE. Jesus is the Faithful One. But see for yourself how the meaning of my words are twisted and how they have translated my words with loose words pertaining to worldly practices to equate them with fornication, so that they can appear to mean anything under the sun or worse. I will be sending this message to you by as many avenues as I may discover until I am satisfied that you have received it.
 
Blessings to you and yours in the name of Jesus

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