MSN Home  |  My MSN  |  Hotmail
Sign in to Windows Live ID Web Search:   
go to MSNGroups 
Free Forum Hosting
 
Important Announcement Important Announcement
The MSN Groups service will close in February 2009. You can move your group to Multiply, MSN’s partner for online groups. Learn More
FULL BIBLE TRUTHContains "mature" content, but not necessarily adult.[email protected] 
  
What's New
  
  ACT  
  NEW  
  ISLAM  
  ISRAEL  
  BEHOLD  
  ZIONISM  
  LIBERTY  
  POLITICS  
  TEMPLATE FOR A.A.  
  TRUE DOCTRINE  
  -THELYPHTHORA -  
  *** HOT ZONE ***  
  DISCUSSIONS  
  CONSTITUTION CLASS  
  MSN Code of Conduct  
  HOW MUCH MORE?  
  TERRORISM made in U.S.A.  
  IS AMERICA DOOMED???  
  PERSONAL INCOME TAX?  
  MASCULINE ANGLES  
  FEMININE ANGLES  
  PRETTY IN PINK  
  WAR  
  Chinks in the Armor  
  EVIL PATRIARCHS  
  PRESENTATION ON MARRIAGE  
  GENUINE BIBLICAL MARRIAGE  
  CARNAL MARRIAGE  
  Bible Monogamy - A History  
  BIBLE POLYGAMY - AKJV (New Testament Examples)  
  BIBLE POLYGAMY - AKJV (OldTestament Examples)  
  A Baptist Pastor's View  
  Antidisestablishmentarianism  
  Homeboy Security Strikes Again  
  Ancient Landmarks Forgotten (but not gone)  
  Marriage and Divorce - Part 1  
  Marriage and Divorce - Part 2  
  sinful marriage  
  Some Food for Thought...  
  More Food for thought  
  Read it My Way or Hit the Highway  
  Patriarchs in the Bible  
  NWO - by LeahsGrace  
  Links Worth Looking into  
  Think it won't happen?  
  NEO-FEMINIST MATRIARCHY  
  TWO WIVES TIMES TWELVE  
  DOUBLE SPEAK REVEALED  
  Most Pastors Won't Tell You  
  REDEFINING ADULTERY  
  SHE HAS NOT SINNED  
  "Oneness" gone Awry  
  The Monogamy Myth  
  HOW ROMANTIC !  
  SANCTIFICATION  
  FORNICATION & SANCTIFICATION  
  To the Forbidder  
  ONE FLESH  
  BEFORE YOU SIGN  
  REMARRIAGE  
  Matrimony  
  Celibacy  
  HISTORY OF MARRIAGE -- by James Campbell  
  Exposing Monogamy Myths (Treatise on Marriage)  
  DEAR PRUDENCE  
  CONDEMNATION  
  Religous Freedom  
  CALL A SPADE A SHOVEL  
  Inspiring Quotations  
  FULL BIBLE TRUTH  
  NEW AGE BIBLES  
  The Radical Truth  
  BILL OF NO RIGHTS  
  A BOOK WORTH READING  
  SOCIAL RE-ENGINEERING  
  ISLAM - A BRIEF HISTORY  
  Could it be POSSIBLE???  
  A FEW RADICAL FACTS  
  From Freedom to Fascism  
  International Woman's Day  
  ONE GOD JESUS ONLY  
  No Room for Patriarchs  
  One Day I took a Quiz  
  WAKE UP AMERICA  
  FALSE PROPHETS  
  THE FIRE IGNITES  
  IT'S ONLY MONEY  
  DO YOU DARE?  
  Thelyphthora: Reproduction  
  THELYPHTHORA - INTRODUCTION  
  REFUTING FALSE DOCTRINE  
  Examination Time?  
  Sanctified? or "Sanctioned"  
  The Israel CS Lim (website)  
  ARE YOU A POLYGYNIST?  
  APOSTOLIC PROTESTANT  
  Statement to APO GROUP  
  REFUTING CONJECTURE  
  DO NOT MUZZLE THE OX  
  THE HIGHER STANDARD  
  THELYPHTHORA GROUP  
  HABITAT FOR HUMANITY  
  A letter to the Brethren  
  Responses to E-Mails  
  BEHOLD THE MARK  
  What about Wesley  
  and Martin Madan  
  NEW DEVELOPMENTS  
  THE CHRIST MASS  
  RADICAL FACTION  
  THE REPROACH  
  THE COVENANT  
  JEZEBEL SPIRIT  
  NEO-FEMINISM  
  KIKI's KORNER  
  P.W. PURITAN  
  ** SMUT PILE **  
  TOUCH NOT  
  ***KINGSTING***  
  *** RADICAL ***  
  ***ABOUT ME***  
  The Glass House  
  HAVING SOME FUN  
  THELYPHTHORA - COMMENTARY  
  HEAR ME ROAR  
  PURE RELIGION  
  DOUBLE SPEAK  
  PREACH IT  
  ONE GOD  
  07/07/07  
  JESUS  
  Politics and Patriarchy  
  PREPARE  
  IMMIGRATION AND THE RFID CHIP  
  STAY TUNED  
  CALL A SPADE A SHOVEL  
  BAD BUTT ICONS  
  GOD USED HIM  
  
  
  Tools  
 

As the matriarchal/homosexual reign begins to sweep across the North American nations some women are getting wise to the concept of democracy. As more and more television exposure is being released with coverage of women who are content to live polygynously other women are rethinking values. Rarely are there ever examples of women beaten, physically abused, or pimped out for prostitution, or worse. For many women today, this is a vast improvement to the sort of lifestyle that they are personally accustomed to. Viewers begin to take note that most of these women portrayed on TV - EVEN THE DESERTERS - have nice clothing, look healthy, and are obviously strong enough and free enough to speak up if they should have anything on their minds. Also the children are usually well cared for and their material needs are well met.

It's almost too good to be true for a woman who has lived in a street ghetto surrounded with crackhouses, disease, and teen age prostitution. I was honestly wondering when the wiser women would finally catch onto the "catch" and it would appear that many already have. What may not have occured to some of our more polygynist oriented males is the fact that women in this capacity do indeed have MORE STRENGTH & SAFETY in numbers. If these women really don't like something that their husband is adamant to demand should be, they are surely in a much better position to defend their position in plural than the poor woman living in an abusive but "monogamous" marriage is. That "monogamous" man has no cause to fear the presense of legal witnesses such as SISTER WIVES who are able to testify freely, in a court of law, on their sister's behalf.

On the whole, women are not stupid. They also know that women who "escape" from polygynist marriages can appeal to the government for protection and certainly get it. Meanwhile, a man with a multitude of wives is not inclined to fight so hard to hang onto that "only wife" because she likely isn't his only wife anyway. No, he will  inevitably "let her go" without too much fuss -- after all, why would he really want to contend with the law? (Especially when he has wives that are much more loyal and dedicated to him.) Aaaaah, but that is the crux of it! We can't have submissive and obedient wives in our neo-feminist, unisexual, homo-egalitarian, "democratic" republic, now can we?

Where is the level playing field in a "civil" marriage for the husband?

A: While it is true that traditionally, the husband did not have a fair playing field when he was forced to divorce an adulterous wife it is also true that times are changing. There was once a time that his adulterous wife could take him to the cleaners any time she wanted because she had him over a big barrel labeled "CIVIL MONOGAMY" but now we witness husbands that are getting the custody of their children and the child support payments because the wife is more concerned about living for the world and the things that are in it. Ironically it is the female judges who seem to be the ones far less likely to be fooled by a Jezebel spirit than the male judges. Incredible irony is running its course in Canadian justice these days.

But let's be realistic: This practice of "gold digging" will only work in the heterosexual model of society and only for so long. Same sex divorces are already becoming popular in our brave new feces loving society. The real goal of contractual and "civil" marriage was to make merchandise of the masses and it worked phenomenally well, considering the fact that the licensing of marriage is a practice that is barely over a century old. Now that men are giving up on women with respect to heterosexual relationships and women are now joining to other women in all sorts of "unions" for strength and support rather than to men, the bottom of the glamorous marital safety net is about to fall out.

If over 69% of the North American wealth already belongs to the women and children... then for most women, the available dividends to be gained by sucking the neo-feminist cash cow of a husband dry are rapidly diminishing. People are tired of the plaintive cries of "no child support and no alimony" whining away like an old cassette tape recording with the magnetic film wearing thin. Some judges today are also women, many of whom tend to grow weary of hearing the stories of violent and hard-headed (if not hard-hearted) wives of ill repute. Such reminders are all too common for those women who have learned the hard way and these reminders are also increasing in number. As women continue to carve out their independant lives, the court systems are also re-evaluating the situation in terms of the "higher income earner" and the dependants. Divorce isn't paying out anymore like it used to for the oxymoronic "serial monogamists" while more and more married men with children are just throwing up their hands and commiting suicide than ever before. The suicide and depression rate for this category already excels that of women and teens in Canada to such an extent that in several cases the suicide rate is four times higher for men. It's time for a new plan. I am left with little choice but to admire and commend the fairer sex for this rather prudent approach to a pending marital reality: 

Canadian Ministry of Justice for Polygamy

THE AUTHORS

Dr. Martha Bailey, Principal Researcher
Martha Bailey, LL.B. (University of Toronto), LL.M., (Queen's University), D.Phil. (Oxford University), teaches in the Faculty of Law of Queen's University. Her expertise is in the area of domestic and transnational family law. Dr. Bailey is a reporter for the Hague Conference on Private International Law's International Child Abduction Database and served as a member of the Advisory Group on Close Personal Relationships for the Law Commission of Canada. Her recent publications include “Same-sex Relationships Across Borders,�?(2004) McGill Law Journal 49, 1005.

Professor Beverley Baines, Co-principal researcher
Beverley Baines, B.A. (McGill University), LL.B. (Queen's University), has been a member of the Faculty of Law of Queen's University since 1974, has taught in Queen's School of Policy Studies since 1992, and is now serving as the Head of Women's Studies at Queen's University. Professor Baines is a constitutional law expert, and her recent publications include The Gender of Constitutional Jurisprudence, with Ruth Rubio-Marin, eds. (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2004).

Professor Bita Amani, Co-principal researcher
Bita Amani, B.A. (York University), LL.B. (Osgoode Hall Law School), S.J.D. candidate (University of Toronto), joined the Faculty of Law of Queen's University in 2002. She teaches and publishes in the field of intellectual property law. Her recent publications include “The Human Genome Diversity Project: The Politics of Patents at the Intersection of Race, Religion, and Research Ethics�?(2005) Law and Policy 27, 152 (with Rosemary Coombe). Professor Amani, an Iranian-Canadian, has extensive experience conducting government policy research.

Ms. Amy Kaufman, Researcher, Research Assistant, Editor
Amy Kaufman, B.A., LL.B. (Queen's University), is a recipient of the Law Society of Upper Canada's 2004 Award for Academic Excellence. She serves as Clerk to the Ontario Superior Court of Justice in Toronto. Ms. Kaufman's article “Polygamous Marriages in Canada�?is forthcoming in (2005), Canadian Journal of Family Law.

"The report recommends that Canada prepare for a constitutional challenge to the limitation of marriage to two persons. The report recommends that Canada prepare for a constitutional challenge to the limitation of marriage to two persons."

* Please note that the individuals representing justice in the above link are entirely comprised of women who want to see POLYGAMY LEGAL IN CANADA. Alas, after all these years, HOMELAND SECURITY has managed to quash their effort.


With respect to these "victims of oppression" that we occasionally hear about in the media, I have witnessed dozens of examples of these "escapees" from so-called religious polygynous cults and I've noticed something rather profound about them. These women from such marriages don't have broken jaws, their teeth look in good shape, they seem fairly healthy looking, and many appear to be "well preserved" for their ages if not well cared for. Some also appear to be very well educated. You know, to be honest, it really causes me to wonder... could it be possible that there is strength and safety in numbers afterall and the television reporters are just not telling us the rest of the story?

Aside from these dozens of "victims of polygamy" (and I've listened to the stories)... there are thousands of women who seem quite content to stay where they are until something "better" should come their way. Yet we hear no reports of them being shot by their "pimp daddies", no reports of them being beaten to a pulp and whipped into submission by controlling and domineering egocentric husbands, no reports of starvation or malnutrition, or torture, or broken bones. Sorry - verbal abuse won't cut it. In the real world I have come to know, women are easily as verbal as men and can be ten times as abusive in this respect. hmmm...

Am I missing something here?

If we did a study on the actual percentage (per capita) of those women escaping from "abusive husbands" in so-called "civil" monogamous marriages, encompassing all of the "divorce", "crime", "neglect", "violence", "addiction", including all those actual adultery (woman that breaketh wedlock) rates, etc. in both groups, I do think that the results would be very startling to those who would pride themselves in the secular government endorsed monogamy contract. I submit that it would be to the shame of the so-called monogamists.

No worries: It looks like the wiser women are finally catching onto the benefits. Yes, there is strength and safety in numbers.


Isaiah 4

1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.