Kiki: She solely bears the charge of adultery for being simply "put away."
Scannerman777: I beg to differ. It falls back on him because he bears false witness against her. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Kiki: You have a point. But bearing false witness is bearing false witness and adultery is adultery. Sure, they are both sins that can be rightfully charged to the husband in this case, but the scripture in question does not charge the man with bearing false witness for putting his wife away unjustly and marrying another. It charges him withadultery. And I see from scripture that there is no permission granted for marrying again unto the believing man whose unbelieving wife leaves him, which, from the context of the passage in 1 Corinthians 7, could be merely because of his newfournd faith and desire for holiness of life.
Jesus: And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery. - Mark 10:12
Jacobs_Trouble: Before God, bearing false witness is adultery. It is willful corruption of the Truth, to whom the Bride of Christ is married. It is holding the truth in unrighteousness. This is also a reason why Jesus said that His wives in the Old Testament committed adultery and whoredoms. Breaking a covenant before Living God is treachery. Christ Jesus admonished his disciples to "swear not" for a very good reason. Jesus understood what was at stake and so does the adversary. Jesus: Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
Jacobs_Trouble: When any person takes vows before God in the presence of witnesses and breaks them later, they commit spiritual adultery regardless of whether they have engaged in l'basar echad with someone other than their spouse or not. Covenant breakers are guilty of committing adultery. From a spiritual standpoint (which bears far more gravity than the things of the flesh) all sinners are guilty of adultery:
"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law." - James 2:10-11
Jesus: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Talk about filling up the law! Perhaps this is one reason why so many devout pastors keep saying, "sin is sin" and trying to drill it into the heads of the congregation that "greater" and "lesser" sins do not justify any sort of sinning at all. Anyone who has transgressed the ten commandments in one point has transgressed them all. Now Jeremiah lamented that "the heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" I submit that the Lord Jesus knows the heart.
Although you see no permission granted for marrying again given to the believing man whose unbelieving wife leaves him, we read that God has called us to peace. "But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace." I think not under bondage means "not under bondage" although I also realize that many of my critics have stated that I don't take the scripture literally enough. See: GENUINE BIBLICAL MARRIAGE
Furthermore it is written in 1 Corinthians 7:8-11:
I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. But if they cannot contain, let them marry : for it is better to marry than to burn. And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife. How then is it possible for the departing wife to remain "unmarried" if she still has a husband and the scripture states plainly that she is still his wife? This is a contradiction according to our modern English thinking. How is it possible that the husband should not 'put away his wife' who is "unmarried" ? NOTICE... that the scripture says "let not the husband put away his wife". We do not read "let the husband remain unmarried" here, but rather we read, "let her remain unmarried". Why then, is she still "his wife" eventhough she is no longer considered "married" but is in fact, "unmarried" to her husband?
A: Even because she has put her husband away. She is his estranged wife; but because she has not taken another spouse in adultery she still retains her God given right to "be reconciled to her husband " although she is yet "unmarried ". This Bible truth supports the scriptural authenticity of l'basar echad: And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
Paul makes no such prohibition concerning the husband. He advises the church that it is better to remain unmarried but he also concedes to every man having his proper gift. The husband may not put away his wife and the wife should not depart. "Let not the wife depart from her husband" is what is written. "But and if she departs..." is what is written. Now I should think that "a new found faith and desire for holiness of life" can also work well for the married man or married woman who cannot contain... "A new found faith and desire for holiness of life" work at least as well for a man or woman in the Lord with the gift of celibacy... "A new found faith and desire for holiness of life" should work especially well for those souls who have repented of their sins and are born of the water and of the spirit -- just as this same new found faith should work for those who learn to embrace the fullness of the scripture. Continuing...
" Paul as much as makes that point clear when he asks: For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife? " see: GENUINE BIBLICAL MARRIAGE
Therefore, they are both still married, despite the fact that one now believes and the other does not. At least one spouse coming into the faith is all that is needed to sanctify a worldly marriage as "godly." - Kiki
Amen. Marriage is for life. I have never disputed this. This is a very good reason for men to keep their hands off other men's wives. This statement further supports the biblical truth that not all marriage is honourable but rather, we see that scripture reads precisely as it is written: "marriage is honourable in all". Without the sanctification of Jesus how can any marriage be sanctified? There is a man who calls himself a Bishop who dares to delight after the flesh in this manner, thinking that by virtue of the flesh l'basar echad is indeed sanctified. It seems he believes that two virgins who are yet carnal, never having received the Holy Spirit, are sanctified by God in l'basar echad. I see no scriptural evidence supporting this boasting in the flesh and my spirit does not bear witness that it is so. Nonetheless I will venture to say what it is, as I believe I have had a little first-hand experience in this matter in observing the destruction of my own parents' marriage: It is two sitting ducks, without protection or sanctification, awaiting the fox whilst they are joined together as one. It is not safe. It is a disaster, ruled by the flesh, waiting to happen.
ungodly + ungodly = ungodly - not sanctified, not holy, not honourable, not undefiled, not protected, not saved.
godly + ungodly = sanctified
ungodly + godly = sanctified
godly + godly = godly - sanctified, holy, honourable, undefiled, protected, blessed, SAVED.
Two ungodly virgins who marry in the flesh are no more sanctified by the Holy Spirit than an harlot sharing even a thousand sexual partners. There is no such boasting in the flesh before God. Those who boast in this fashion will likely also learn the meaning of humiliation. Rather give God the glory and boast in the Lord. The matter of two godly virgins is a powerful work in the Lord and it is honourable. Our modern English language would have us to confuse the sanctioning of God (Who was present when He made the twain from one flesh - l'basar echad) for the sanctioning of men. l'basar echad If we receive the witness of men, the Witness of God is greater. When the godly marry the godly, they are both sanctified and sanctioned by God Himself. What further need for ink and paper remains, should be written within the lids of the HOLY BIBLE.
Approximately a century ago, it was the "legal document" of marriage in a court of law -- the record in the family Bible with the signatures of the pastor, the parents, and the witnesses. Today, it is a license to divorce (aka "certificate of marriage"). I do maintain that this is nothing more than a foundation for licentiousness. In the Old Testament it was the tokens of virginity on a sheet of linen. (A foreshadowing of the flesh and blood covenant.) There is no covenent without the shedding of blood. Again... There is no boasting in the flesh before God. Every sinner must come to know today that only the blood of Jesus can CLEANSE, can COVER, can SAVE them. This is the NEW COVENANT. Glory to God! The Mystery is hidden in plain sight while the Harlot claims to be the ONE and ONLY. This is a call to honesty and truth. Let us examine our hearts before God.
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