Can we Christians Talk to Muslims-14
Greetings in the name of Jesus, who was, is, and will be the Word of God always, with love and best wishes, another meeting with Grace. I still haven’t finished the original debate, but temporary we are testing, can Jews talk to Muslims? The last time we sent the first message, let us continue what my Jewish friend wanted to say to Muslims.
Christian: My friend, I don’t understand, the last time you said how Jews are your cosines, Arabs are from Ishmael, and Jews are from your uncle Isaac, why such hate between the two, how did this started?
Muslim: my friend, we do not hate Jews, we hate their actions, we do not hate what they are, but what they are doing. Jews were ordered to enter Palestine; the Holy Land to worship, the first thing they did is by saying: Palestinians are Giant great worriers, go Moses with your Allah to fight them; we will sit here till you kick them out. Allah made them loose their way to this Noble Land forty years in the desert till He finished all of that evil Generation read the Jewish book (Old Testament) for confirmation.
Christian: Yes, I know; I read this in the Old Testament, God said none of those Israelis will see the Holy Land, even Moses was not allowed to enter, and he died before they entered with Joshua, clearly stated in my book too. Then what else, this is not a reason for all this hatred?
Muslim: No, it isn’t, now when they came, you can read how they annihilated with the edge of the sword every living, even the little children as they are doing today, you can read this in the book of Joshua (6:21,24, 8:22, 10:28,34, 11:8) just to name a few, also after they steal all the Gold, they burn the cities, what kind of hate those people had against Palestinians, and why? Then they sometimes lived as slaves under the Palestinians, other times simple endless wars, the land was desecrated with their actions and their idol worship to offend Allah; read how God said: I gave you the Holy Land, and you desecrated my inheritance, if you want me I will show you where (Jeremiah 2:7, 16:18); every thing is mentioned in the Old Testament for every reader who wish to read and educate. Now let us skip history, when they went to Saudi waiting for the promised prophet after they disbelieved and persecuted Jesus PBUH, we all know what they have done to the man, whipping, spitting, insults of the most evil, and according to John they also crucified the man, they went to Saudi after Christian Rome kicked them out of Palestine as I said waiting for that prophet mentioned in the book of John, they were waiting for Elijah, the Christ, and that prophet.
Muslim: the prophet came, and was non Jew, they went after him to destroy him as they did to Jesus and Elijah among other men we keep repeating. But this Prophet was supported by a greater force, and they failed. Then Umar the second Kalif kicked them out from Saudi like Christian Rome kicked them out from the Holy Land. Most of them went to other Arab Muslim countries, we took them in, we hugged them, and cared for them, most of them got extremely rich dealing with Gold and Real State, and had a good life among us Arab Muslims and Christians for the last 2000 years. Jews got persecuted badly at Europe, now ignoring every warning from Allah never to have a state Deut 28:63, 65), they started planning.
Muslim: during the first world war, the Masons started pushing Europe to rip Germany from every thing that may enable it from going to war again, with lies and nonsense. When Germany was able to put forces again, instead of avenging against the Masons only, they went after every Jew in Germany, Germans had French, English, American prisoners, why they did nothing to hurt them, why killing Jews like they did, you do not trouble yourself into asking, and you keep falling for false talk, and got acquainted with accepting. The plan of the Masons worked like a charm, and Jews from every part of the world started coming to Palestine since 1917, killing Palestinians, promoting with evil: this is a land with no people, for people with no land, while Palestinians were there in millions (Exodus 13:17) calls it the land of the Palestinians (Philistine in Arabic, Aramaic), and the West fell for this evil till Jews announced the birth of their Stat at 1948, and wiped Palestine from the Map. This is the worst crime in the 20th and 21st Century, with the help of the Civilized West, the same that wiped out Red Indians.
Muslim: they killed hundreds of thousands as they did in the book of Joshua but with American Arsenal this time, invaded and colonized the land, spreading false Non Biblical teaching how God promised them to return, when we ask where this is mentioned, they bring Jeremiah that has nothing to do with today’s situation. There is no promise to bring them back today after kicking them out for the last 2000 years, there is no Biblical teaching saying: after all what they did against the LORD, they will be rewarded by coming back today. My friend, yesterday they were led to the land under the LORD Supervision, why today they are under help from the West, is the West the God of today to say God is helping? All what they bring from Biblical promises apply to old situations, mostly about bringing them back from Babylon, and I challenge the best among you to show me where is that promise to give a land today. My friend, 80% of the Jews are Atheists today, did you know it, before we talk about promises from God to Atheists? 20% from the Jews still believe in God, reformers, Orthodox, and moderates.
Muslim: now add up the reasons, as Roger Rabbit said: I love you, let me count the ways: 101, 102, and keep adding. We do not hate the Jews, some of the Jews know exactly what is going on, they are not fooled by the controlled media in the West, and they are fighting other Jews for going against the LORD with invading and colonizing a land that they were given, and taken from them because they did not keep their covenant, Allah said: I promise a land, I promise you to be among the best nations if you obey, and I promise to make you the most miserable if you go against me. Israelis were slaves at Egypt, at Palestine, at Babylon, at Persia before the king of Persia Cyrus returned them to Palestine, and lost the land to Rome, then they became slaves under Rome, till Christians kicked them out for the last 2000 years, Allah made them live the worst among the nations, persecuted every where for what they have done against Him. No nation was treated as bad as the Jews all over the world, why no one among you ask why any more, and wonder about it?
Muslim: I am sorry, you asked, I had to answer, check the books in your hands, no book insults the Jews like the Old Testament, no book tells us the truth about them like the Jewish Tanak, why so many are blind and do not wish to hear God and his words? I am sad, because your priests started telling you to read the Word only (Jesus), they made you illiterate about word for word in the books that you sacred. Yes, we do not hate Jews, they lived with us for 2000 years, we loved them, and cared for them, till the West went against them. France went against Jews for black Fever, Germany because what they did between the two wars against it, south America because Jews thought they are superior, they lived in Castles with high walls to separate themselves from the average human being, Russia was so angry it really made them miserable, everywhere they went, they tried, they succeeded to make enemies with their practices. Don’t ask us why we hate them, we don’t, we hate their actions, but ask why writers like Shakespeare wrote the epic of: the Merchant of Venice, to show what Jews look like, and it isn’t good, why an English poet such as this most famous man did? Some of you sadly think helping them will fast return Jesus PBUH, my friend, wonderful Jesus will come whether Jews build their temple, or never well, do any of you have doubts in what Jesus promised?
Christian: Wow, wow, wow, I don’t know what to say.
MY RESPONSE:
Greetings in the name of the only wise God, Jesus Yeshua Christ.
The Messias cometh.
I am not familiar with the name of [withheld] , but it reads as a good name. I too, look toward a heavenly Zion and a Holy Jerusalem. I am encouraged and I take heart in the knowledge and faith that the King of Salem is returning soon and very soon. I should like to share a link with you in the knowledge of this material that you have shared with me. Salvation is of the Jews. Please read the following quotation written by a man called Daniel:
The Israel of today is the head of antichrist and not the chosen nation of God. If possible the very elect will be deceived by the antichrist Messianic movement of religious Jews. Their is nothing but carnal pride in most of these Jews. Most think that they are special because of their linage or genealogy, which means nothing in the eyes of God. Jews have no advantage in genealogy or in their modern language. Knowing God, being filled with the word or the Holy Ghost and being circumcised of the heart is the only way to be borne again into the true tribe of Judah, which is the true Israel of God.
Here is the link:
http://www.thunderministries.net/Messianic/Validity%20of%20Jesus%20Name.htm
COMMENTARY:
Poor Christian who did not know what to say. Sounds like yet another Roman Catholic "wash-out" to me. (Protestants are also Roman Catholic "wash-outs") But the Muslim sure had alot to say! I will not call my God Allah. His name is Jesus. I am prepared to die for this Truth as much as any Muslim is prepared to die for the name of their own God. That does not mean that I must go and seek a jihad or an inquisition. No Muslim I know of is prepared to say that His God died on a cross, as a man, for my sins. No, Allah did not lay down his life for me - but JESUS did!
I know many from Jewish backgrounds who will not contest this with me because they know HE WHO IS. My God is both Man and God and I was made in His image in the Adam. This same Yeshua (Messiah) is of the Jews and He will not give His glory to another. Jesus Christ is NOT an "other" God as the Roman Catholics have misled Western society to believe. The name of Jesus is above every name in heaven and in the earth! Jesus is the Messias and the Almighty One who will bring His people to Him with His own Arm! There is no "other". Selah.
JT
I will embrace any brother with a Jewish or Muslim background who agrees completely from the heart that what I have written in the above paragraph concerning the name of Jesus is the truth. There is but one God. His name is Jesus. Anyone who rejects this name is an infidel (all who willfully sin are infidels, by the way) and they need to fully repent, get filled with the Holy Ghost, and be baptized in His Holy name: Jesus Christ.
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