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From: MSN Nicknameyoss771  (Original Message)Sent: 9/25/2008 11:00 PM

  first salam al masih,to my christian brothers, many mulims say that freedom of choice is guarnteed in the quran, what they ignore is that all the peaseful verses were said in mekah, when the muslims were few, had no weapons ,no armies, after the hijra, migration, to medinah, the prophet had a different attitude, people then had two choices either accept islam, or face death, and he pretended that was a divine order, until the last moment of mohamed life ,his last words were to chase the jewish and christian tribes from the arabian peninsula, this intolernce gets worse towards those who leave islam, in islamic tradition  either they repent, or be killed, does the the real lord really need people to defend him,this is a pattern of totalitarian regimes , creeds, such as nazism, mafia, once you are in , you can get out, and you will sleep with the fishes; as they say in mob culture, truth seeker must think about this, christ tell us here ian knoking on the door , if anyone open the door i enter and dine with him, that true love,



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From: MSN NicknameHisProphet1Sent: 9/26/2008 12:11 AM
Malecha salam Yoss...
 
It is with great sadness that I veiw the nations of Islam.... Knowing their zeal to serve God and seeing the error of their prophet. 
 
I have had the pleasure of meeting and working hand too hand with many men of Islam... I appreciate their honesty and dedication to their faith and prayer life.  I often spoke with them concerning their faith and the prophet... who they call Jesus.
 
I could see the hunger in their eyes to find God and know the Power of His presence in their eyes... If I could I would give all I have too be able to speak freely with them concerning Jesus Christ.
 
Convert, a Muslim... and you indeed have a convert... one who faces the very loss of his life, family, wealth... all he has. I would that we could come together and reason... Though their sins may be as scarlet He shall wash them white as wool, though they be crimson, He should make them white as snow.
 
I have a real burden for Islam... but, lack the present means and opportunity too witness in Iraq or any of the Islamic Nations.  Pray for me that I would find the will of God for my ministry... the time grows short.  Amen.
 
Prophet.

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From: MSN NicknameJacobs_TroubleSent: 9/26/2008 5:59 PM
Peace to you and to your house. I completely agree with what Yoss has shared on the leaderboard on this thread; to be fair however, I feel that it must be stated that historical Christendom is no better than nazism, mafia, or any other totalitarian regime. Despite untold persecution, the first century church flourished and prospered by the blessings of the Almighty One; but the tares that the enemy had sown into the wheat were already making an appearance. By the end of the second century Gnostic doctrine had waxed strong and was choking out many the true doctrines and Godly traditions of the original, New Covenant Church. One might say that Christianity was being commercialized for want of personal gain and filthy lucre. Nearly everyone in Greece and in southern Europe was getting on the band wagon to pursue this new religion that defied Rome.
 
By the third century Christendom had become a more organized and established world religion, rooted in the false doctrines of Gnosticism and Mithraism, while the true worshippers of GOD held true to the tenants and teachings of Christ. By 325 A.D. the Catholic religion had been fully established but it was not yet fully the religion of Rome. It is here that Christendom becomes one of the most vile and corrupt religions that ever existed upon the face of the earth. The Mystery religions of the Gnostics had come to fruition and a great falling away from the original tenants of Christianity (not to be confused for Christendom) were put to rest. Alexandrian doctrines prevailed and many Babylonian trinity doctrines were reborn out of the traditions of the Pagans to be "Christianized". None of these have any place in the true faith once delivered to the saints of the most high GOD.
 
Many of the true worshippers who fled from the earlier Roman Persecutions managed to keep the original faith somewhat intact; but these people were shunned wherever they went and despised continually, often burned at the stake for heresy in their refusal to embrace trinity doctrine which is not supported by the scripture. By the dawn of the fourth century Rome had already established the foundations of a New World Religion that many today have embraced for Christianity. Constantine figured prominently in this having become both Emporer and Pope of Rome.
 
Today, the majority of professing "Christians" no longer have the doctrine that was once delivered to the saints, but rather the doctrines established by predecessors who bought into the great Roman Mithraist lie. Their Christianity is false and it does not hold up to the scriptural truth of GOD. While Rome prevailed in Babylonian Mystery religion, GOD suffered another Nation to rise up that was equally steeped in Paganism and many divisions of Mysticism: ISLAM. It is my express belief that because ROME denied the true faith in the ONE GOD of Abraham today we now witness the retribution that GOD ordained before Abraham that the wrath of GOD should be poured out on the Nations for their insolence and arrogant irregard for the only wise GOD. It is for this reason that the sons of Ishmael are kept blind to the GOSPEL that was once delivered to the saints. It is vital to remember that GOD is not just the GOD of the Godly, but GOD of both the Godly and the ungodly. Even the Shaitan (شيطان) plays into the hand of the LIVING GOD in the end. I believe that GOD used and is using  Islam to chasten the Nations who refuse to believe that GOD is one in every way. Alas, both Christendom and Islam are without the true religion of the only wise GOD; for both still suffer from those traditions which are Pagan and worldly and delight in the shedding of blood. Neither religion has honored the true Salem, but both fall prey to the devices of kings and dictators to murder, to rape, to plunder, and live for the world and the things that are in it. Until all Nations are prepared to put down their weapons and embrace one another in unity in the complete knowledge of the ONENESS of GOD there will be no peace on earth.
 
The Muslims are no less right than the proponents of Trinity doctrine. In fact, the Muslims have a great deal of truth in their religion. What they greatly need is the revelation of Melchizedek to whom their father, Abraham paid tithes. I suspect that I would have become a Muslim before I ever became a Roman Catholic; but because I do know the ONE TRUE GOD, this is no longer my concern. GOD has a name and the Muslim nations need to know that their Allah (the real one) also has a name which is above every name in heaven and on earth. Now the name of GOD is not GOD. "GOD" is a word that was attributed by heathen and pagan and all manner of religions to depict that superior Spirit which all mankind once knew existed. My friend, His name is JESUS and JESUS is GOD, very GOD, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. It does not matter to me how the various tongues of the Nations would pronounce the name of the MESSIAH. Our tongues are not clean and true anyway, because we are yet but flesh and blood in these mortal bodies. What is important to understand is that the SHEM, or NAME of GOD ALMIGHTY, died on a cross to save us from our most miserable and most hopeless condition of sin. Christ Jesus is and was literally that name. He was, and is, literally the SHEM of GOD, the Person (singular) of GOD, and the Son of GOD, in Spirit and in truth.
 
GOD is a Spirit and Christ is His per-Son.
 
I respect the Muslim people more than many know because they at least understand that GOD is ONE in every way and there there is no way that He is not ONE. GOD is not three, but ONE. Alas, there is no salvation to them that willfully reject the name of the ONLY WISE GOD and therefore... Despite all the books on the shelf... All the wisdom... Islam is doomed because they have no MESSIAH. What a terrible shame that such a noble people should suffer such a miserable curse for holding the truth in unrighteousness even as do the trinitarians! Only a remnant of these will be spared for embracing JESUS, the only wise GOD.
 
May He bless you and your house in the knowledge of FULL BIBLE TRUTH.