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From: MSN NicknameZephyr·  (Original Message)Sent: 10/4/2008 6:08 PM
In 1992 the B.C. government did NOT make it illegal for a man to have mulitple wives...it was with great interest that I read a blog yesterday on polygamy. Of course, the article was biased I found..and centered on two men. Not on all the men and all the women who are involved in this lifestyle. Something I find very unfair.
I believe the world needs to know that not all involved in this lifestyle are oppressed. It's that simple. The world needs to know the hearts of those who live in these mulitple marriages...and that there is a good side for those who want this life.
Again...I personally do not see an issue with this....and I believe that it is a select few who would be determined to show a negative side...
And I have to wonder...why does society view this lifestyle with such jaundiced eyes? How does this affect them in the way in which it does? Why is this lifestyle so detested and hated?


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From: MSN NicknameJacobs_TroubleSent: 10/5/2008 11:58 PM
Welcome back, Zephyr. I'm glad you asked these questions. They are the sort of classic questions that most people would sweep under the carpet before they would care to address them. Having wives, plural, is not nearly what people generally tend to think it is. I too, happened to be one of those people before I considered the possibility that it might not be a sin for a man to have more than one wife after all. The attitude adpopted by Society is much like the early scandals of the 1920's over miscegenation in the U.S.A. frequently incited by the K.K.K. . . Because it looks different it has to be wrong is the reasoning employed here. U.S. GOVERNMENT actually established miscegenation laws to monitor and control mixed marriages in the United States. The original marriage license was instituted as a result of the growing concern over miscegenation and the practice of licensing "mixed marriages" is what resulted in the Uniform Marriage and Marriage Licence Act. See: BEFORE YOU SIGN  At that time only people in "mixed marriages" were required to obtain a marriage license �?otherwise their union was considered illegitimate.
 
Before I had my walk with JESUS I recall my jealousy and hostility toward miscegenation when I went to a birthday party and witnessed a beautiful, fair-skinned, blonde-haired, blue-eyed woman in the arms of a black boyfriend. She introduced him to me as her fiance. I will never forget the jealousy and wrath that swept through my blood and the hatred and contempt that filled me. I was completely indignant. I could not even bear to look at it. I remember my hostility and deep, inner conviction: "That's just wrong! She should be with her own kind!" I kept telling myself. I had to leave the party. Little did I realize that only a few years later, that I would become friends with a couple much like this and that I, myself, would also be married to a woman of different colour. GOD has a way of keeping us all humbled.
 
I thank JESUS, the only wise GOD, that this attitude is no longer a problem for me; but also I think He let me remember that hate and repulsion so that I might better understand where these sorts of people are coming from. They need to get over their flesh which will rot just as readily as the rest of human flesh after the soul departs. I also believe that without the love of GOD it is impossible to overcome fleshly pride; for that is precisely what it is. There are three avenues whereby sin enters into the hearts of men: Lust of the eyes (what he sees), lust of the flesh, (what he feels) and the worst of all: PRIDE OF LIFE. See: 1 John 2:16: "For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world."
 
I'm actually addressing this phenomenon in my book, "Beyond the Monogamy Myth" right now. People generally take much pride in their flesh and in their ability to stay loyal to a spouse; and in so doing, they often forget that GOD is the main reason they are able to stay loyal and faithful in the first place. Lest it be said that I don't support loyalty to spouses, I would make it clear that I am completely loyal to both my wives. I don't go running around looking for "one night stands" and I certainly don't support casual sex. I am committed to my wives for life and though it is true that either one of them could break that committment, if either one of them chose to permanently leave me that I would not be able to stop them. GOD has called us to peace. I also know that they will be answerable to GOD for it even as I would be if I were to leave my wives. There is no difference here with respect to infidelity and it is the same with monogamous marriages: The consequences are the same. As for me, I am loyal to them both. As for my accusers, inwardly, they congratulate themselves on what a fine job they're doing and often reward themselves in the knowledge that their spouses are very fortunate or "lucky" to have someone like them. This is pride. It is not the same thing as me saying that by the mercy and grace of my Lord and Saviour I am blessed to have two wives. One would do well to give ALL the glory and ALL the honor to the Most High GOD before boasting of their loyalty to a spouse. Pride cometh before the falling.
 
Many of the accusers of the Brethren are just plain jealous of those men with more than one wife. Inwardly, many of these want more wives too, not fully understanding or comprehending just what that might entail, but they know that their wives would never stand for it (pride again) and their motive (jealousy and covetousness) is all wrong anyway. GOD knows the heart. It is often a sad thing to learn that human attitude and behaviour generally does not change much from the playground days of our lives. That is also why the celebrated book, All I ever needed to know I learned in Kindergarten was such a success. To be true, there is one thing the author of that book still lacks if he does not have it already: JESUS. But many of the points that the author makes in the book are very plausible. You have asked why Society opposes the practice of having plural wives and I suppose that a book could be written on this subject alone. I will briefly list a few of those reasons here:
 
1) Because it is Godly and anything Godly will receive powerful opposition from the world.
 
2) Because the enemy desires to corrupt every and any good thing from the hand of GOD.
 
3) Lust of the eyes. (What the accuser sees generates wrath and contempt, often spawned of jealousy and covetousness in their own hearts, failing to understand all that which comes with the responsibility of such unions.)
 
4) Lust of the flesh. (What the accuser feels in their flesh, the emotions they experience when they witness it. They know there is a blessing there that they do not share and consequently despise it because they cannot have it themselves. They automatically reduce it to a sex thing and emulate repulsion when inwardly, they are jealous of what they themselves know they cannot have.) 
 
5) Pride of life. (What the accuser thinks in their own mind and heart to justify their own personal postion in life and the choices they have made. Vainly comparing themself with others, the accuser seeks to justify themself in the eyes of others and fails to understand that their righteousness is as filthy rags before GOD. The accuser would feign to give GOD the glory but inwardly, their heart is full of jealousy and contempt for those who are so blessed of GOD.)
 
6) The same sex marriage people view people like us as a threat to their agenda and rightly so. Their agenda is Satanic, whereas ours is Godly. People like us believe in making our own families and having our own babies in addition to providing for the fatherless children and the widowed. The worldly believe in feeding off of Society in a fashion that makes the general populace bovine cash-cows for the elite. They believe in taking the children left behind through Planned Parenthood Programs to teach them to be just like them. Whereas we believe in keeping a dominant male in the home who rules his home with tenderness and mercy and love. They believe in the abomination of two-headed households at best and the lying doctrine of gender equality. We believe what saith the LORD is found between the lids of the Holy Bible and that ALL of it �?nbsp;not just parts of it �?is the inspired (GOD BREATHED) Word of GOD. They, on the other hand, desire to use the scripture only to support their agenda, selectively leaving out those things that are not convenient to their private designs, and working closely with social engineers like Billy Graham and Oprah Winfrey, many of them denying any association with the elite groups that fund their social programs.
 
7) It is contrary to the New World Order agenda. The agenda means to reduce global human population to 500 million. They don't want more babies. Many of the heads of this New World Order are homosexuals and they are men and women in positions of great power. A good many of them are political leaders and rulers from all around the world. They meet once a year at the Bohemian Grove in California and only the very elite are permitted in their circle. This sounds a little far-fetched, but it is a well documented fact. What is less known is that the agenda set forth by these people to the heads of World Registered Churches is to have the bishops, preachers, and pastors feed the sheep toxic doctrine based on half-truths that coincide with their agenda and support the cause of the New World Order.
 
These elites don't want more babies born "randomly" at the providence of GOD and more wives generally means more babies. They want to carefully control and cull the population to meet their own designs just as Adolf Hitler envisioned in his Kindergarten-based selective breeding programs. The New World Order agenda is designed by those who want us to believe that our children are not our own. They want us to believe that our children belong to Society (instead of GOD) and that Society will determine what is best for our children. They want us to allow them to determine whether we should have children or not, how many children we should have (if any), how they should be educated, where they should be educated, and what sorts of things they should learn. Children are the property of the People, they tell us, and that means our children belong to the People �?not their parents, and certainly not GOD. I'm not making any of this up. There are documents all over the internet and books written by the fathers of public education that literally state these words. No child shall be left behind because the GRID wants everyone! The NWO is here to stay until the Second Coming of Christ.
 
I have a new wife and my beloved Pamela, being in her mid-forties, is not realistically able to bear children in safety anymore; nonetheless, we have a new baby. This really bothers a good many people where I live. Isn't it interesting that civil law endorses allowances for surrogate mothers but opposes actual family relationships involving two wives? You see, government is not nearly so concerned about children "born out of wedlock" as they often pretend to be. In fact, they would prefer that children be born without bonding to natural parents so that they themselves might select and provide the parents that they prefer for the children, without regard for any natural, parental authority. Government Day Care facilities are only part of the agenda to bring immersion programs provided to gain acceptance of the idea that they know what is better for our children than we do. For example, I was recently told by a certain low-level member of the Illuminati that because of my genetics that I should stop having children and I suspect that over time this is something Society will be seeing more of on a regular basis. The online dating programs available are only precursors to what will result in government-controlled selective mating and breeding programs. Admittedly, all of my beloved children are not exactly "normal" but they're none of them "retarded" or under-developed either. They're just different and they certainly do stand out in a crowd. Of course, Daddy is much to blame for instilling in them a healthy measure of distrust for the current establishment; but it isn't as though they are not capable of thinking for themselves either. In fact, they were honour students in public education (which is not really saying alot) and I am very curious as to what a home-schooled child might have in store for this family as I too, am also largley self-educated. I doubt that I will ever regret this decision to have another child and I expect (much to the chagrin of some of our local and not-so-local Masons) that I shall father more children by the mercy and grace of my Lord and Saviour who has little use for groups like Mensa. Our children mean the world to me and I also know that they were formed by GOD in the wombs of their mothers. So they are my world and I am prepared to lay down my life for them if need be.
 
I hear all sorts of stories about how the public servants are supposed to be serving the public and not dictating them. I'm told that it is We the People that are supposed to be the government of the Nation because we live in a Democracy. Somehow I find that just isn't the case. I am told that we are to obey them that have the rule over us, even as a wife is also required to obey her husband; but rarely do I hear the words "only in the LORD" following these declarations and demands for obedience and for this reason I am labled a dissident and a dissenter. As for me and my family, we will worship the LORD. The only New World Order I'm interested in serving is the one that JESUS will establish when He returns to us in the glory of the Father. Before this happens, the great deceiver must step forth to draw all the hypocrites to him and declare that he is the one that everyone was waiting for to return. By GOD's providence I will not be part of that great deception and I pray that my children won't be either. So I am going to continue making babies for as long as I'm blessed with this ability and by the grace of GOD I will continue to  teach my children that the so-called government is not really their friend, but an unruly servant of the People. Perhaps there are Christians out there that prefer Socialism to the truth.

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From: Jacobs_BelovedSent: 10/6/2008 12:21 AM
Because anything approved by God is going to be detested and hated by the world. Be glad you can't understand that. This means you are NOT of the world. Praise the Lord.

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From: MSN NicknameHisProphet1Sent: 10/6/2008 3:54 AM
Zephr;
 
Amen... well said. However, if you voice this fact on most Christian web sites be prepared for lots of abuse.
 
However, we are not too fear men but God... whose, Word clearly permits polygamy.
 
Prophet.

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From: MSN NicknameZephyr·Sent: 10/6/2008 2:17 PM
HP..I am not the type to stay silent when I disagree..by my silence, I would be condoning the other person's opinion, and if I feel that it is in error, I do stand and give my own opinions. I don't say the other person has to embrace mine, but I do say that they have to respect my opinion, same as I respect theirs.
I just can't see where mulitple wives would be illegal or immoral..no matter what is pointed out to me. As far as I'm concerned, the person who is against this is proof texting certain passages to make their opinion right.
I just pray that people would leave this alone...and let others who live in this lifestyle live it in peace. I'm against same sex marriages...to me it's wrong. But I certainly do not hate these people. I don't even know them! This however has nothing to do with mulitple marriage...yet our government embraces same sex marriages as being legal, and in the same breath, attacks another group who are living within the moral bounds of scripture. This is what saddens me....
I have to get here, have fifteen minutes to get ready for work, feed the critters and get out the door...or I'm going to be late, as well as the person I give a ride to her work place, lol.
See you all later...and have a blessed day. Hope the little one is doing well today JB.

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From: Jacobs_BelovedSent: 10/6/2008 10:04 PM
She's doing great today, Zephyr. I've been taking her out every afternoon to enjoy the nice weather before the snow comes. We're currently trying to get her onto a stricter sleep/nap schedule then she has been on, which is pretty much no schedule. So far, we haven't had too much trouble with it. I've also been looking for a snow-suit for her, as well as a toddler bed. It's a small town here, so there aren't alot of options, but I know God will provide. He's provided more for her so far than I could have imagined as it is, lol, God is good.

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From: MSN NicknameJacobs_TroubleSent: 10/6/2008 11:28 PM
Zephyr
 
Much of the problem lies with definition. We generally don't understand how much truth we lost in the Dark Ages and few people study World History any longer to have some idea of what events took place prior to that time to lead us into such mass confusion. Our very language has lost it's edge through the blurring of definitions at the hands of propaganda specialists and spin-doctors and the zeitgeists of the ages, and this is yet one more reason why there is so much confusion in our world today. Lest there be any misunderstanding on the readers behalf, the English language is not the only language that is rife with this sort of confusion and mass delusion. Alas, it is my understanding that the English language suffers the most from a lack of integrity in definition. It is through the process of re-defining the English language that much definition is already lost among the English speaking Nations. For a lack of a better word, one might say that the language is "evolving". Rather than generating a new word, an old word, for some reason, is assigned a new meaning. All languages are consequently loaded with all sorts of puns and inuendo generated by such babel. As a result, the new meaning conflicts with the old interpretation and blurs the original definition of the word. This is only one more good reason to stick with the AKJV BIBLE.
 
When I discuss this particular issue with those who are evidently weak in the faith, I try to avoid using new age terminology with them and I often wonder if it wouldn't be wiser for me to completely avoid using it at all. Polygamy is one such word, so abused and bent out of shape, that it has practically lost its purpose in reference to marriage. It is far too general, covering and including other such words as Polyandry (one female with many males). Polygamy literally means "many unions" and is a term used by biologists to describe the mating behaviours of certain animals such as deer, sheep, elk, primates, etc. and many of the other mamals in nature who engage in the practice of having more than one mate. In this respect, nature itself teaches us that having more than one spouse is not neccesarily wrong. What is morally wrong is what man has done with it and I will spare the reader the details for now. Polygamy is a very broad-brushstroke sort of term and now it is being used to cover so-called homosexual "unions" as well, including those humans who "unite" with many beasts. So we see that such a word covers pretty much everything but the kitchen sink �?nbsp;unless of course, one should find a way to unite with kitchen sinks - plural.
 
Polygyny, (notice the spelling) is a word more rarely used and only found in some of the better unabridged dictionaries, that better describes the biblical sort of union between an husband and his wives. Yet I am prompted to wonder if we need any new words to describe what is already written in the pages of GOD's holy word; for I have learned that I might make my best points with the biblically learned by sticking precisely with what thus saith the LORD and they cannot dispute that GOD called it "wives" (plural), nor can they refute the term "many wives", nor can they refute "fourteen wives", or anything that GOD called it, without suffering the dire consequences of holding the truth in unrighteousness as they often do. This "monogamy only" doctrine is a strong hold that is thousands of years old, holding absolutely no ground in spirit and in truth. It was born of Babylon, carried over into Rome, adopted by the perverse followers of Plato, and hellenized by Greece, to place a yoke upon the shoulders of GOD's people to effectively control the masses of civilization. Monogamy is not a sin. It is the MONOGAMY ONLY doctrine that culminates in the setting at naught for which the Apostle Paul warned us would come in the form of forbidding of marriage. It certainly wasn't the original tradition of Israel, but it was definately an effective way to defy the command of GOD to be fruitful and to multiply. This monogamy only doctrine steps merrily, hand-in-hand, with the new age abortionist agenda, the gay agenda, the birth control agenda, and all other agendas spawned of the advocates of the New World Order, in order to bring global population to the projected target of 500 million souls. (See: Georgia Guide Stones)
 
There is nothing new under the sun. GOD suffers the blindness of this generation that all things should be fulfilled according to prophecy in their appointed time and season. The time is come for North American Nations to pull down this strong hold and to recognize and honour what saith the LORD. Negligent fathers in this New World need to take responsibility for their progeny and to start claiming personal responsibility for ALL their wives (plural) and to stop behaving like dogs. Any dog can impregnate the female version of the same; but a good man is a father to his children. Likewise women need to accept their proper role as mothers in a voluntary humility for having chosen of their own volition to be the wife (sex partner) of the man who fathered their children �?whether or not he has an other wife or even more wives. The husband must not deal treacherously with the wife of his youth and he must leave the wives of other men alone! Now that is the consequence and the risk of choosing to become one flesh for both people in monogamy and people in polygyny. If women in North America don't like it, then they simply should not marry (conjugate) in the biblical sense of the word; but rather remain virgins or unmarried for the rest of their days. The only other option left to them is to wait until every other man they've had sex with dies... Or become whores �?and that option is well over-used for the over-abundance of dogs in the world. It is rebellion to the Word of GOD for any man or woman say anything contrary to this word. Most so-called Christian men and women in North America need to get off their high horses and learn what this means: GOD is not mocked. While other countries and Nations all around the globe are vast increasing in population, the population of the New World is being quashed for their benefit. Great blood sacrifices are being made for the sakes of those who make merchandise of human souls: war, genocide, suicide, infanticide, as immigration soars all for the want of peace; but there will be no peace until all agree that GOD is one in every way and there is no way wherein He is not one.
 
I know that I lift the higher standard and that I am despised for it. It is a call to honesty and responsibility for progeny... It is a plea to keep our children off of the alters of Molech and to rescue the victims of the Cremation of Care... It is an invitation for young men to behave like gentlemen and for young women to behave like true ladies in the LORD, tending to their children and enjoying the blessings of motherhood rather than treating it like an unclean thing. This is the true reason why it is so despised of governments and principalies: IT... is Godly. Instead of casting our progeny and our widowed at the mercy of Caesar, we tend to our own. Instead of cutting a deal with the god of this world by means of paper writ to make merchandise of flesh and blood, we would honor marriage as GOD called it: ONE FLESH. Instead of putting down the paper with the sodomites, catamites, and lesbians, we honor what GOD called marriage. The civil government will honor that contract with the workers of iniquity long before it will honor the faithful in polygyny. God bless you, Zephyr, and thankyou for understanding.
 
JT

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From: MSN NicknameZephyr·Sent: 10/7/2008 2:41 AM
I'm not ignoring what you are posting JT...I get reading what JB has posted and just like to respond to her posts...
JB..good luck with schedules! My kids put me on their schedule, lol...when they were young. There was something about that look only a young child can have that will melt the heart and tell them..'well, okay, you can stay up with me for a bit longer.' How many times I carried my kids to bed....
I wish you were closer..we had a huge garage sale here for the local SPCA..a man bought a toddler bed without a scratch on it!
Do you have access to a Freecycle.org group near you??? This is an excellent way of picking up things for children! I collect kid's clothes about a month in advance for our church clothing giveaway...I get too many!
Back to what you posted JT...I agree with you...I wish others could see that it is just so wrong to prosecute others when doctrines or personal beliefs are not in ageeance. In fact, they don't need to agree..but they do need to stop the persecution. Over the ages, so many in history have been on the receiving end of this..and it has never faired well.
I've been around the block so many times over the years I've lived...and I've seen so many good people hurt over careless words, and this just saddens me so much. More so when they do this in the name of God...

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From: Jacobs_BelovedSent: 10/7/2008 7:39 PM
Zephyr, I looked up the website. It's a great website, looks like, unfortunately, the closest group is in a town about an hour away and we don't have an easy way of getting there. I think I'll join it any way just in case, though. Thanks for the advice.

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From: MSN NicknameJacobs_TroubleSent: 10/7/2008 7:40 PM
Oh, that's okay :::chuckles:::  I didn't think you were ignoring me anyway. . . But if you were, I'm used to it anyway so my feelings won't be hurt. I just used your "tidbit" as a launch-point to set forth my message. I pleases me that you and Hope are friends. At least this way she knows that not all Canadians are "stuck up". lol I keep telling her that Northern Hospitality is no less warm than Southern Hospitality but I'm not so sure I've convinced her of it yet.
 
When you have a little time check out this link:
 
 
GOD bless you and thankyou for being a friend

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From: MSN NicknameZephyr·Sent: 10/7/2008 8:07 PM
I watched just the first part of this video as I have to go soon...but what I saw, what I heard does not surprise me JT. I have always had this same thought in the back of my head...that our governments are not made up of Christian men with Christian values...in other words..they will talk the talk..but there will be no walking. I know the occult at one time was kept secret...today, it's out in the open, with very important people shoving their beliefs down our throats. Ophra is one of these that I speak of, among other people with the power to influence so many others.
I find it appalling that Wiccans, Muslims...all those who don't follow a Christian path are accomadated in life..yet Christians are being gagged at every turn. I find it appalling that society on a whole will embrace same sex marriages...that we are accepting of this. I worry for the children...I very much worry.
Our family dynamics are falling apart...babies are having babies...kids are being left alone to grow up the best that they can..day cares are taking over raising our children with their values, not ours. Parents are excluding church with their children..people place more importance on material things and money rather than spiritual matters. Our society on a whole is falling apart...yet everyone is so busy trying to survive that very few notice this. We are becoming so desensitized to the woes of the world today, we will gladly give a few dollars a month to sponsor children overseas, yet we ignore our own here who more so in need.
It's sad JT....it is just sad.

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 Message 12 of 16 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameJacobs_TroubleSent: 10/7/2008 8:42 PM
Zephyr
 
Few I have met have shared these views with me so well as you do. I'm all for helping starving children in third world countries and the wife of my youth and I sent donations often... That is, until we discovered how much of the money was actually going to the needy. Yet here, in our own back yard, in Canada, of all places, there are homeless in the streets, children going hungry, and the elderly are neglected daily. A Cremation of Care will not solve any of these problems.
 
My elder daughter is in Moose Jaw right now. She phoned me from the airport in Regina to say that she arrived safely and was going to meet up with some other youth groups in Swift Current. She's involved in a project where she is currently working with the Elderly in a nursing home and learn social and professional skills. A few days ago, a 90 year old woman was teaching her how to bake bread from scratch. She is having the time of her life and I am grateful to GOD that there are still some projects out there that make some sense.
 
Prudence has a politcal proclivity that I hope and pray doesn't swallow her alive. We discussed politics on the telephone and she's voting for the GREEN PARTY. I have pretty much been a CONSERVATIVE all my life; but I see that the poor and the needy being so badly treated that I think that for the first time I'm going to vote for the GREEN PARTY too instead of the PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE PARTY. It makes no sense to me why so many of our Canadian Soldiers are losing their lives in Afghanistan - especially when most of them died under U.S. friendly fire in the first place and not many died at the hands of the Taliban. I don't think this is really our war and I think 911 really was an inside job. I think we should bring our boys back home. I'm tired of both the PC's and the Liberals fleecing our Country. Remember what Mulroney did to us? Talk about a bail out! He was no better than Trudeau. Perhaps some fresh blood in politics might help... Perhaps not. But it doesn't hurt to try. At least if the GREEN PARTY gets a few more seats it will send a strong message to our Federal Government that Canadian Citizens are not so willing to sit in the front shirt pocket of United States Despots like G.W. Bush and Co.
 
I'm fed up with this war and I'm fed up with the poor being oppressed. I want to make a difference but I'm only two hands and two feet. I would suppose that getting the message out helps but at some point one needs to take action. I was recently accused of being an "activist" in one of the groups and I suppose that is a good compliment because it means that I'm walking my talk. . . But it's so close to home... What difference is it making? Hope knows the tears that I have shed for a lost people.

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From: MSN NicknameZephyr·Sent: 10/8/2008 1:11 AM
I was in Vancouver in the early part of August..and somehow ended up on Hastings St. I was somewhere caught between horrified and heart broken. The sight of the cardboard cities set up on the one block will stay in my memory forever. People sleeping in concrete doorways...people just sitting on the concrete sidewalks waiting...for what? I almost had heart failure when the man I was with backed into an alley to turn around...I was terrified that there could have been someone sleeping there.
I wish I had a good camera with me....I would have taken pictures with black and white film...and used those to show the 'real' Canada. In Winnipeg...there are people living in homes without doors and windows, children are running around on the street not dressed for the weather, no one to watch out for them.
In Regina...there are people who are struggling to stay alive the best that they can and everyday...they fall behind another little bit. There is so much racial prejudice in that city, and this is on both sides.
I become so angry at our politicians who paint a rosy picture of our economy, the one's who attempt to impress upon us all that we are all fine, we are all good, no one is doing without...no one is hungry. I know families here who can't feed their children, and it's not because of a lack of trying..these people work at minimum wage jobs and come up short. Yes, Saskatchewan is the land of plenty...plenty of no decent jobs, expensive housing, rising costs in utilities...that list goes on, as do the people who struggle to give their children a decent life.
I see so many churches who begin their Sunday services with clips of starving children..and a plea to empty your pockets to feed the children of the Third World..while I sympathize...I refuse to give. There are just too many here who you don't see in almost the same circumstances...they may not look as sad as those in the video's, but in the same breath..they exist here. I suppose this is one of Canada's dirty little secrets they would like to keep hidden from the general public...how on earth could any politician answer to questions posed with proof.
As for the war over there...let them fight it out themselves. I know I sound heartless when I say this..but if the US and Canada would quit interfering, perhaps they would end their own war. I have a son in law in the Navy, and my worst fear is that he will be deployed. He is a gentle man with a very sensitive soul, and I'd hate to see him witness what goes on over there.
In the end, we need to clean up our own back yards..and then offer to help the others. Feed our own first...make certain our children have the health care that they are not getting...take care of our own. Perhaps if we gave families a better hand up...children would be raised in a better way. The days of Dad working and Mom at home are long gone in the past...
I should end this vent here as this is the one issue I feel so strongly over. The rising costs do not affect those in the higher tax brackets..they affect the lower income families. Politicians don't feel the same pressure as we pay them well to 'fleece' us...

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 Message 14 of 16 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameJacobs_TroubleSent: 10/9/2008 12:21 PM
You needn't say more. It's just like Viet Nam all over again, but worse. You are far from heartless. Mom always taught us to clean up the mess in our own back yard before criticizing our neighbour for theirs. I'm with you all the way on this issue. Canadians need to stop acting like pawns for sick minds drunk on power.

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 Message 16 of 16 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameHisProphet1Sent: 10/11/2008 9:59 PM
For the cry of the laborers and the poor have entered into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth... He shall, avenge the widow, and the fatherless.
 
Great is the ruin and sin of a city built upon a hill, whose gates are open... too, ever evil... whose walls are broken down and overrun.  For the ruin of this city, bears a testamony of her neglect and swift ruin.
 
Let the just... declare the way of the Lord.  Cry out ye saints of the Lord as the witnesses of His righteousness in the earth.  Speak, too the neglect of the widows, the fatherles, poor and innocent who perish for lack.
 
Yeah, give even the testimony of the Lord... that none should go without wisdom and repentance.  For the day comes and is upon us when men shall not bear the infirmities of man... The gross inequity of their greed shall overflow in the streets. It shall become a witness before God... a stench in His nostrils. So that, He will arise to avenge the poor, with a shout and the blast of a Trumpet; He shall come with clouds of Glory too rescue His from among the unjust.
 
Yea, and then shall be great tribulation in the earth as was never before... Brother shall rise up against brother and the hills will be filled with blood, as men cry for the rocks to cover them.  In that day, many shall cry peace; but, of truth they prepare for war, beating their plow shares into weapons of destruction.
 
Make straight the way  of the Lord for He comes... He comes swiftly, at an hour ye think not... He comes with the rising sun, in the East; and He shall shine unto the West, to gather in of His people... form every corner of the earth.
 
Awake ye who sleep, go... and buy fine oil, trim thy lamps and look for the groom He comes.  Prepare ye the Bride and gather in the Children of the field... dress the table, for the feast of the Lord.  Call ye to thy neighbor and bid them come... Come, let every one with an ear come unto the Lord. Saith, the Lord of Hosts... Amen
 
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