Okay, since you are using green to quote Robert, I am going to quote myself in this color to avoid any further confusion.

"Why is it not now lawful? How was it lawful and then suddenly not lawful? Did God change the law? Where did God change the law? What part of the law was removed and what part of the law was added? Which jot? Which tittle? When did JESUS (the Father) suddenly change His mind about this thing that was once "lawful among the ancient fathers" ? Where does the scripture say that "there is not now a necessity of begetting children" ? No, these are only the words of yet another lying trinitarian. This man was no saint. To be fair, neither was Luther. I must be fair also to say that Luther diligently sought for the truth concerning this matter and failed to produce scripture to support "St. Augustine's" unholy lie. At least Martin Luther was honest about it." - Scannerman777

 Jon: Well now first I would need to ask where God stated numbers for marriage at all? If he never made rules there is no law to change.

Jon; believe it or not, this is precisely my point. No matter how many wives a man may marry, the same ordinance of ONE FLESH occurs each and every time that he takes a wife. Nothing changed! Now I believe that it is evident to those who read the story that the Adam was made twain for the "CAUSE" and that it is for this cause that a man "shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." Are we not all ONE FLESH in the Adam? Is Eve the mother of all living? Yes, we don't like to admit to this, do we? But verily the flesh is corrupt, incestuous, and compromised with each and every passing generation. Incest is in our genetics. It is inherant and it is inherited. We are all brothers and sisters in the flesh even if we are "sworn enemies" in the spirit. It makes no difference to Jesus. He knows what we are.

Secondly, God did change some earlier rules, he allowed brothers to marry sisters and later said don't do that anymore.

Jon I am surprised. You just said that " If he never made rules there is no law to change." Where do you read that God made a rule stating, "Only a brother may marry a sister?" and then change the rule? You cannot have it both ways. The fact is, God never made such a rule AND GOD HAS NEVER CHANGED HIS LAW. However later, when He gave Israel their moral and civil law, HE commanded  that a brother should not take the daughter of his father to wife. Now we surely both know (and most of your advocates are quick to remind me of this) that 'just because God allowed something to happen that doesn't mean that He commanded it to happen.' In other words, I am saying, that just because God allowed a man to have more than one wife does not mean that HE MADE A LAW AGAINST IT either. If HE did, THEN SHOW ME THE LAW! Now I am using your own logic here. I am told this so often by those who continually fail to comprehend the truth in it's fullness. LISTEN CAREFULLY:

If there is no law against it, then it isn't SIN!

This is simply not true. It's your opinion, yes, however it is never Biblically stated to be an ideal for us all. It is how God chose to begin mankind, it is never made an archetype. ...and Unless your a nudist, gardener, married to a woman made from you side, you don't believe it to be archetypical either. - Robert

I fully agree with you, Robert. So far, it is my view that all that has been offered by Jon in opposition to the fact that GOD did indeed acknowledge and approve of "wives" plural for one husband is pure conjecture and opinion. As I stated previously, he will find no scripture to support his position; and after the passing of over 80 posts by us here, he still hasn't. Robert, if Jon's archetype were sound, then only ONE SOUL would be found in the Bride of Christ. All the rest of us would have to go to the "other place" because the Lamb of God would only be permitted to marry ONE PERSON in the BRIDE.

Jon:  However I do think it is true.  Eve was taken from Adams side to be his companion, not a slave to be ruled over.  This is where love comes in as well, love is commamd of us for our wives and love seeks not it own (as in own way).

Agreed. As a husband of two wives, I cannot argue with your statement, " love is commamd of us for our wives and love seeks not it own ". I can also say to you in all honesty that being the husband of two wives is teaching me a great deal about selflessness that I never thought of when I was the husband of "only one". It is not as some might suppose and I do not say that this is for everyone because it requires a tremendous amount of maturity and SELFLESSNESS on the parts of ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.

Although having two women (one on each side) does make walking together rather interesting AND FUN, it can also be somewhat comical from time-to-time. It surely tends to keep a smile on my face, especially when heads begin to turn. Anyone who thinks that he will not have to be selfless if he has two wives isn't even ready to be the husband of ONE WIFE, let alone TWO. That much I assure you and any other reader here, concerning SELFLESSNESS. I am grateful to my LORD that His commandments are NOT GRIEVOUS and that HIS burden is light. I cannot imagine in any way being able to love my wives appropriately without first loving JESUS. I am told by other secular polygamists that it is possible but I do not believe them and I am not interested in their reasons why they think they have a successful marriage. There are corrupt polygynist marriages and there are corrupt monogamous marriages. Without JESUS it is all corrupt. Yes, EVEN celibacy is corrupt without JESUS... look at what that led to in the churches of men!