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From: MSN NicknameEverett_Brad1  (Original Message)Sent: 10/6/2006 12:08 AM
Liberals are the thought police!  They think they have discernment but what they really have is viewing others the way they actually see themselves through narcissistic egotism = projection.  They used to call it "witchery" or legalism(Galatians).

The liberals were so perceptive(including Foley) that they thought that because John Karr made some statements that their egos could be boosted because they had now finally caught a pedophile, child killer, necrophiliac.  These liberals used your tax dollars to fly John back to the states while they served him champagne. 

They thought, because he acted a little feminine, that he might be one of them neo-cons or liberals(a neo-con is a closet liberal).  They could make big bucks with him using your tax dollars to appear to be fighting pedophilia.

Have you ever noticed that you hardly ever hear of a liberal priest seducing an altar girl or any girl for that matter?  There is a reason for this.

In actuality Bill Clinton is a sex offender using the "authority concepts" of the liberals.  Foley is a sex offender and neo-con because he signed into law the very law that condoned sodomy through the hate crimes bill and at the same time condemns young women and men under 18 who have sex with older men. 

Now John Karr walks free with a smile on his face and has used your tax dollars and he will probably go back to teaching because he is no longer on trial for being a sex offender but merely a very wise manipulator.

Who are the idiots?  Foley, who is now a sex offender and should register, or John Karr, who does not have to register? It seems that the pedophobic liberals who hate male on female sex, now must face the facts that their own laws can entrap them and what goes around comes around.

I guess the liberals will have to evade real issues and focus back on Warren Jeffs to avoid the fact that it is their promotion of sodomy and same-sex abominations that started all this mess with Foley. 

Now the speaker who has been coddling the same-sex aspect of Foley for years will suffer for not speaking up.  He could not speak up against the perverted acts of Foley because the gays would not like it under the new hate crimes bill.

The Catholic Church should never have compromised its biblical marriage stances on polygyny to endorse Roman law above the law of God through Moses.  They followed the Romans' Road over the Jerusalem Road.

All of our congressmen went after the Catholic Church and called them all pedophiles, when in actually much of the sex involved was ephebophilic, even though most of it was homosexual in nature.  You don't hear hardly any liberal denouncing the fact that homosexuality is abusive in and of itself because abuse is abnormal use.

Our bodies are designed beautifully for young women and men to enjoy.  It takes man only a little while to change the natural acts that were given to us by God and call them "normal," while denouncing sex with young post-pubescent women "abnormal" for us men.

I would like to look into a liberal's head to watch the mechanisms taking place that are used to come up with the opposite of logical analysis.

Abortion is murder. If any woman that sat on a jury that convicted Susan Smith and put her away, has had an abortion, this juror should ask for Susan Smith's forgiveness for her own hypocrisy.


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From: MSN NicknameJacobs_TroubleSent: 10/6/2006 7:59 AM
Hypocrisy abounds in an ungodly nation. The women and children will continue to rule over them because they refuse to embrace the FULL BIBLE TRUTH. Until North America gets it right and the Fathers take back what is rightfully theirs we will continue to see more hypocrisy of this sort escalating in our countries.

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From: MSN NicknameJacobs_TroubleSent: 10/7/2006 5:47 AM
They're getting pretty brave, my friend. Then again, I suppose they always were rather brash. Now they manage the affairs of Libertarians for them also, according to Scannerman777. No big surpise that they should be so helpful.
 
 
 
 
Go Liberals, go!

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From: MSN Nicknamescannerman777Sent: 10/7/2006 6:25 AM
Let's put it this way...
 
Going to http://groups.msn.com/LibertariantheAnswer is like going to a website that calls themselves theLiberalSolution and learning that it's really being run by Republicans who are only too pleased to tell you so. I don't have time for that.
 
If I'm working for Ford Motor Company I'm not going to get far in the company driving a Buik.

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From: MSN NicknameEverett_Brad1Sent: 10/8/2006 12:15 AM
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From: MSN NicknameEverett_Brad1Sent: 10/8/2006 12:18 AM

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From: MSN NicknameEverett_Brad1Sent: 10/8/2006 12:19 AM
Maybe because very, very few parents of either sex murder their children. Only a very small percent of the prison population is there for that reason.

Maybe more American men are accused of rape because we are a much more violent society, and therefore there IS more rape.

Rape has been redefined so many times that it has become ridiculous.  The sodomites and lesbians view straight sex with a post-pubescent woman and an older man as pedophilia and rape. We need to define our words properly instead of using generalities.  Under God's law, if a woman does not scream in the city she is guilty also.

I'm not a feminist by any means, but your arguments are ridiculous

Maybe many people murder their children and this does not exclude abortion if one considers the children of partial birth abortion.  It does not take a rocket scientist to realize that whether the child is murdered during birth or while the birth is taking place or for that matter during the pregnancy itself(since men can be charged for murder for two if one shoots a pregnant woman and kills the baby inside) it does not matter. It is Murder. 

The pro murder of child liberals are like the pedophiles.  A pedophile having sex with a prepubescent young girl can blame the girl for the clothes causing him to rape the young girl.  He just cannot face his own proclivities to have sex with prepubescent females or males(children).  That is child abuse.

Ephebophilia is not child abuse however but the liberals have to condone gay ephebophilia while condemning opposite sex ephebophilia because it does not fit their agenda of control.  Therefore laws are created that enable the wickedness of homosexuality and stifle the natural function of a postpubescent female and/or an older male in order to carry out the natural acts of procreation.

Of course statistics can be manipulated but that does not mean there is not substance to the statistics.  Anyone can watch how easily older women get less time for having sex with young boys and even their students.  This is happening a lot.

Summer of '42 is promoted as a woman who loses her husband and thus the novel justifies the sex between her and the fourteen year old.  I have never heard the woman ( whose husband was killed and this was the causal factor for her depression)called a monster.

However both Humbert Humbert and the woman of the Summer of '42 both were traumatized by death yet the woman is held as justified in her reactions but Humbert is considered a monster.  Both had sex with post-pubescent individuals.  Everyone can see that the two stories are presented with a bias.

Any family with more than one head and two wills will be a disaster as a family unit.  Pretty soon one head might think its opinion will rule and then one might wind up murdering the other.

This is why the biblical law of adultery(woman that breaketh wedlock - Ezekiel 16:32) was implemented by God.  Adultery was a very serious thing(which is woman that breaketh wedlock).  Men did not commit adultery if an extra wife was given to him by God.  This biblical monogamy thing was implemented by Rome.

We are to obey the ordinances of man as long as they are not used to create double standards.  Today we have double standards and no fault divorce thus doing away with the Christian code of the law of God which protects the family unit.

The word "abuse" is slung around by liberal women as if it was fact.  They consider corporal punishment of children abusive which is derived from the words "abnormal" and "use" when in reality physical correction is normal.

These same sensitivity types that want only the liberal warmed-over pabulum of truth to be accepted now are promoting anal sodomy and homosexuality as normal instead of abnormal use of the human body or perversion.

That book that the Deists put beside that lamp clearly states that homosexuality is an abomination and that the natural use is turned to perversion and therefore God judges it.  God never judges polygyny, nor does He judge an older man having sex with a younger post-pubescent female.  All these secular laws are hogwash and transfer control of the father's children(that is also biblical) over to the servant(the wife) and away from the master, the husband.   This is why the liberals so hate the bible and especially the fact that the bible says that the woman must be subservient to her husband according to the dictates of the law of God and the will of God.

The Deists obviously need a brighter light bulb because the bible is very clear on this.  I know the writings that were in the links provided say that we should not treat our wives as servants alone but to love them and be gentle with a right spirit.  Masters treated their slaves with a right spirit or a wrong spirit but slaves were still slaves and the slaves won the masters over to God by their good behavior, not running off and getting a no fault divorce from the master.

Remember the master had many slaves but the servant had only one master in the bible.  Christ is the Master of His bride, the church and He makes the decisions.  We are His servants.  He is not the poolboy who dances while Dixie Wetsworth pipes her song for him to dance to.

Not only is Christ the Son of God in His humanity but in Spirit He was before Abraham.  A Deist can become a politician because a Deist can get away with promoting all religions as equal but a Christian can never be a politician because he can never promote another religion above Jesus Christ.  This is the difference between the two.

A Deist can be a hypocrite with his bible next to his lantern and get away with creating laws that go against the law of God and the words of Christ because reading the bible is one thing but believing it and exalting the law of God will get one kicked out of politics rapidly. 

It is true that the love of God supercedes hell being hung over our heads in order to procure submission by God or the husband but that does not negate the fact of the order of God.  The goodness of God leads to repentance but the severity of God is still there.  All one needs to do in order not to be saved is not to believe or reject the Name of Jesus.  There are many Deist institutions that reject the fact that Jesus is God.

Statistics can be manipulated but objective viewing of life in general shows the killing of the unborn by women and even the partially born being murdered for nothing more than anger towards a husband or boyfriend or even mere convenience.

I will not sit idly by and let liberals pull the wool over my eyes.  You know why the liberals call the Republican party the gay party now?  They are mocking.  In actuality all that mess has come into the Republican party and it is bringing it down, just as it is bringing our nation down as a whole.

Instead of it being a sodomy issue of man on man(ephebophilia) sex solicitation, the liberals have turned this issue of Foley into a pedophile scam.  There is no pedophilia here or authority problem(of employer-employee) or Clinton would be in jail for sex in the Oral Office.  This man was of the age of consent(DC) as was Monica but if the gay issue is brought about as a problem, both parties will be viewed as hypocrites.

You must remember that empowerment of the left is dependent, not only upon the government, but the government's support of the weak(women and homosexuals).  This is why Eve was deceived and not Adam.  She thought she could depend upon another tree other than Christ and that tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil is now secular government for her.

She disobeyed her own husband and fornicated with the tree of Hagar or the tree of the law of man.  She empowered herself and lost all of authority at the same time and gave up being a true woman just as femininsts give up being feminine to become the very thing that they secretly hate(men or male authority). The product of this hate is lesbianism, a just recompense of reward.

Have you ever noticed how the Deists never mention the fact that our children are not biblically part of a woman's body(whether in them or out of them) but that the bible teaches that it is the father who is the owner or master of the offspring?  Why do you think fathers could accept a bride price for the daughter?  The mother was not given the money.  It was Christ that paid the price for His bride and not the church.

The Deists are a very confused lot when it comes to this issue of the bible or else they have given up these truths to maintain the agenda of the politician.  Can a libertarian enter politics and become dishonest as a Republican or a Democrat while having his lamp and his bible right next to him?  These zealots at the funerals of the military speaking against homosexuality have more truth than half of the politicans today.  Their timing may be wrong but truth is still truth.

These Amish have more forgiveness in their little fingers than our legalists in government.  John Walsh is so bitter over the loss of his son that his vengeance has caused him to move to the left and embrace removing our 2nd Amendment rights.  He is becoming a female on the inside, embracing the government to protect the goats that the government has claimed as their children, rather than the children of God.  We need our guns to protect our children from Walsh and the fledgling goats that work for the government bureaucracy who think they own our children.  And some think I am radical?

These are merely biblical truths.  Sucking up to the law of man in order to appease the guilt in one's conscience because of killing the unborn and the born does not alleviate the law of God.  You have a lamp and a bible, read what it says.  Get out that Greek and Hebrew and see that the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ is the Head of the church and He is the Savior of the body.  This is the mystery.

Let every man have his own(heautou) wife and let every woman have her own(idios) husband.  I will not do the work.  Look up idios and heautou and see the difference.

Men are different than women.  Colonels are different than privates in the church militant.  The church is not an army of one and neither should our military be that.

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From: MSN NicknameJacobs_TroubleSent: 10/8/2006 11:45 AM
As I suggested repeatedly in sundry times (even from the time that we first compared notes online, three Octobers ago) after living most of my life in a country ran by the Canadian Liberal Federal government. Upon legalized same-sex marriages coast-to-coast in my nation I began warning churches online about what I knew was already heading south over two decades ago.
 
In my youth I foresaw a shadow of Sodomy sweep down from the north and engulf the eastern U.S.A. and I watched the shadow from the west join with the east. I saw the face of the planet darken in this vision. I warned various church groups and many thought I was paranoid or over-reacting. Some people believed what I said and others thought I was just plain nuts, or that I was just another RADICAL FUNDAMENTALIST.
 
Not long after this I perceived that it did not matter that I lived in the Conservative west or in the Liberal east... no matter how you sliced it or diced it, the dynamic between the poles was sure to have it's way with the law - the politicians were unified in compromise, at best, and everything "was up for grabs". I witnessed my nation grow perpetually corrupt by way of licencing and the auctioning of our human rights.
 
Many old school pastors also saw it coming. If they had been more intellectually and spiritually honest with the Lord they would have done away with the licensing of marriages as soon as they realized where it was heading; but this is where our pastors have greatly erred and continue in sin to this very day. Caesar's ring is through the noses of pastors registering their churches with government. A man of God need not be endorsed by the government of the land to preach the gospel, nor perform a BIBLICAL marriage ceremony in the presence of witnesses, nor to baptize in JESUS name, nor perform any God given function to the glory of God.
 
(Obey them that have the rule over you indeed.)
 
in 1994 I took my family and fled even further north to escape what I knew would be thriving in the big cities and attempted to raise my children in a more conservative and godly fashion than steep them in the hypocrisy of legalistic pastors fattened on tax deductions. I wanted my children to understand the basics of survival: chopping wood, fetching water, thanking God for our food, etc. Yes, I was a control freak. I felt that the "alternative" just did not really appeal to me. I was not thinking very liberally about the idea and refused to believe that it it might be better to be out of control... and I took my guns with me too.
 
Just like the pastors over the churches I made a grievous error as a pastor over my family: I permitted public educators to instruct my wife and children. Eventhough my home province was still very conservative in it's politics and I am grateful to God for Premier Ralph Klein with respect to what our province could have had for political leadership. Much of the political pursasion of the teachers and administration was obviously RED TORY. (Neo-Con) Ralph put up a good fight but at the end of the day he too, had to hang up his guns and let the FEDERAL LIBERAL government have it's way.
 
Everett, we live in interesting times. A true Libertarian position might buy us a little more of it by the grace of God, but I can spot a Liberal spirit in nearly every movement the moment I look in their direction. In my opinion: Canadian Conservatives need to get out of their diapers, stop sucking on the Liberal milk bag, and put some pants on. Liberal women need to put that dress back on and give their children a better example of what a loving mother really is. Liberal men really need to get some serious help. I haven't found what I would regard to be a true Libertarian party in my province. Preston Manning's REFORM party came very close.
 
The reason Republicans wear diapers is because they're sleeping with the Democrats. It's a very messy and incestuous arrangement, this east meets west deal. Whatever lies at the top of the proverbial "Diamond" can't be good without God so we either lean to the left or to the right of the perceived solution. Only Jesus is perfect and He is a loving King. In truth, Jesus is the answer and we should be prepared to pledge our allegience to the Monarchy of Christ. I think this is the paramount reason why Canada too, needs to establish a Declaration of Independance. The British Monarchy is filthier than it was in the days of King George. I'll spare you the history lesson.
 
I still refuse to believe that the majority of my fellow Canadian citizens actually support same-sex marriage and I suspect that many well funded lobby groups had much to do with it. I suppose that one of the dangers of Libertarian ethics is the 'live and let live' philosophy they tend to encourage but I'm confident that it would be a much better deal than what we are subjected to now.
 

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From: MSN Nicknamescannerman777Sent: 10/9/2006 12:30 AM
The truth of the matter is that all man-made politics are dirty. There can be no lasting blessing if the hearts of the leaders are not toward the only wise God. Jesus is Sovereign and He is the Sovereign King of the Universe. He certainly hears the sincere prayers of His worshippers and answers them righteously. God is just.
 
The reason North America has so fearfully strayed from God is because they have forgotten those Ancient Land Marks that the scriptures refer to. Now there can be no peace until all the World returns to the Land Marks as stated in the Holy Bible. Until a nation puts Jesus first it is under judgment. North America (like the rest of them and the best of them) has played the Whore. I would commend the (real) Libertarians for their effort in the truest sense of Liberty which can only be found in Jesus.

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