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NEO-FEMINISM : DIALOUGE WITH NEO-FEMINIST MATRIARCH (Part One)
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From: MSN Nicknamescannerman777  (Original Message)Sent: 11/26/2006 6:10 PM

Neo-Feminist: "Have ye not read, that He which made them at the beginning made them male and female?"
 
Jacobs_Trouble: I have also read what is written in the FULL volume of the BOOK that my LORD said that I am a god and that the scripture cannot be broken. (John 10:34-35) Rather where is it written that you are such a goddess that you should disobey the scripture by adding to it?
 
Neo-Feminist: Notice, God made them ONE from the BEGINNING. And God never changes!
 
Jacobs_Trouble: The CHANGELESS ONE certainly made them ONE from the BEGINNING. Notice also, what a great multitude of persons will be found in the BRIDE and in the BODY of Christ. Are they not also ONE? How is it then, that a number of souls too great to count are ONE? Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. God is ONE. Wherefore then do you condemn me if there is no marriage nor giving in marriage in the resurrection? (Revelation 7:9) It is because your thoughts are but carnal.
 
Neo-Feminist: God made ONE wife for Adam -- not a harem! 
 
Jacobs_Trouble: God made ONE wife for Adam and look what happened! Adam could have also allowed Eve fall into the transgression in the knowledge that His Maker was fully able to provide him a harem of wives 100 times more beautiful and obedient and able to instill in Adam the ability to please them all. By your reason and logic you could also just as easily say that ONE wife is already too much trouble for a son of God; but in the beginning it was not so and God was able to provide. But let me ask a thing of you if you are so pure in your knowledge of the word: God made WIVES (plural) for the sons of Adam who took their sisters for wives. This was also in the beginning. Do you say that we should take our sisters for our wives in this way today because "the beginning" is our only godly example of marriage? Is this not incest?
 
Neo-Feminist:  There is NO New Testament biblical support for polygamy. 
 
Jacobs_Trouble: There is New Testament biblical support for both godly monogamy and godly polygyny although neither of these two words is found in HOLY BIBLE. Godly marriage is the union of a man and a virgin woman in the Lord - regardless of how many times the man may marry a virgin. Now that is Bible. Stay with the word of truth. A man may marry a multitude of wives while he yet lives: A woman may marry only one husband, or be an adulteress. Please do not add to the word but learn to divide it correctly that you may discern with a true witness.
 
 Neo-Feminist:  The Lord wants ONE man and ONE woman to be married to each other..... and that is IT! 
 
Where is this written? To the best of my knowledge the only BIBLE in all the established religions of the world today that specifically resorts to the phrase, "only one wife" is the Qu'ran. You will not find the words, "only one wife" written in the pages of the HOLY BIBLE, nor the requirement that all husbands are limited to "only one wife".  Your words, "and that's IT" are not found in the scripture either. Keep to God's word and do not add to it. EXAMPLES OF NEW TESTAMENT POLYGYNY
 
Neo-Feminist: Extra-marital relationship is adultery, and we all should know that.
 
Jacobs_Trouble: The phrase "Extra-marital relationship" is not found in the scripture but I think we should all know that there is a great difference between an extra-marital relationship and marriage. Why do you call marriage "adultery"? Does your conscience bother you? The word "extra" means literally "outside of" or, "instead of", as in "extra-curricular".  Polygyny is not the practice of getting married... instead of getting married. This is not logical. An extra-marital relationship is an affair outside of marriage. If it is commited with another man's wife, it is adultery. Surely you know this.
 
Neo-Feminist:  Polygamy is clearly adultery in its most outrageous form. What are people trying to justify?!
 
Jacobs_Trouble: Where is it written? Where does the scripture say, if a man hath two or more wives he is an adulterer? I will assure you, you will not find it in the Holy Bible: God would have even condemned Himself if it were so. But because you say if a man hath two or more wives he is an adulterer and a whoremonger, you condemn God. He is the changeless ONE. It is written throughout the scripture that men of God had two wives and in no place does the scripture call them "adulterers" for this. In fact, the scriptures give us examples and godly advice in such cases. (see Deuteronomy 21:15). So then. If the word of God recognizes "two wives", and the scripture cannot be broken, is it not then possible for a man to have two wives - even in this dispensation? The term "Two Wives" is found in the HOLY BIBLE twelve times.
 
Neo-Feminist: From the very beginning GOD wanted it to be "male and female"....ONE wife and one husband. 
 
Jacobs_Trouble: You have said this before, repeating these words often. No matter how many times you repeat these words they do not transform into different words. They do not magically convert into the words you are seeking: "only ONE wife". I am one with my wife and I am one with my wife. Just as Abraham was ONE with Hagar, so am I ONE with my wife. Just as Abraham was ONE with Sarah, so am I ONE with my wife. Just as JESUS in the book of Revelation (New Testament example) is ONE HUSBANDMAN over a union comprising a MULTITUDE OF PERSONS  (plural) in the ONENESS of a Holy Bride.
 
Neo-Feminist:  But God's people were rebellious and they ended up doing what THEY wanted to do.  I do not believe God EVER wanted it that way. 
 
Jacobs_Trouble: The flesh is at enmity with God. If God's people were rebellious as you say, how much more rebellious is the world today that despises godly marriage? What you believe is irrevelant because your belief has no root in true doctrine. The neo-feminist may believe that it is also her prerogative to change her mind but God is true. As it is written: For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. - Malachi 3:6
 
Neo-Feminist: He did permit it in the OT days.  He does NOT permit it in the NEW COVENANT church.  Period. 
 
Jacobs_Trouble: God permits godly marriage in the NEW COVENANT and in the OLD COVENANT church. Period. God does NOT permit ungodly marriage to thrive in the church. Period. He is the CHANGELESS ONE. Period.
 
Neo-Feminist: I don't believe that God has ever approved of more than one living wife for any man. Quite the contrary, He FORBADE IT, even to the kings of Israel....and that by written STATUTE! 
 
Jacobs_Trouble: God permits and then changes his mind? How typical of neo-feminist logic. Only "quite"? Is the LORD our God so confused that He should vacilate as a woman in her moment of indecision? Again you err, not discerning the fullness of the scripture. First you say, He permitted and now you say He FORBADE what He permitted. This does not sound much like the CHANGELESS ONE to me. The STATUTE you refer to does not forbid the godly "adding" of wives but the MULTIPLYING for gain, like cattle. If your words were in full agreement with the scripture then you are saying that God broke His own STATUTE by adding wives unto King David. Try as you might, you cannot have it BOTH ways. Either God is true, or He is a liar. I verily maintain that God is true. In Him there is no variance. I understand that neo-feminists change their minds a great deal.
 
Neo-Feminist:  BUT, I think he did allow it because of the hardness of their hearts. 
 
Jacobs_Trouble: Oh. My apology. I thought you stated that God FORBADE it altogether. Now you say He "allowed" it because of the hardness of their hearts. Do you suppose only men of Old Testament times suffered from hardness of heart but women were exempt? Why do you continue to confuse godly marriage with adultery? Even because you listen to the wrong voice.
 
Neo-Feminist: Sometimes God will allow you to have what you want, but you will lose what you got in the end. 
 
Jacobs_Trouble: You would do well to heed these words as it is obviously your vehement desire to have things your own way and NOT according to the perfect way of Jesus. Jezebel was the same. Jezebel wanted to be the Lord of her lord and she too, was no lady but a powerful neo-feminist of her time. I have little doubt that she did not stand for godly marriage either. Nonetheless the standard of holiness is not the standard of sexual egalitarianism and equality for genders. The Neo-Feminist feigns to desire that godly men obey the law of the Wifewoman and the Husbandman both but it is written that a man cannot serve two masters and herein lies the confusion of the Wifewoman.
 
 

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From: MSN Nicknamescannerman777Sent: 11/26/2006 6:23 PM
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She desires to be her husband's Lord and Master. She has not learned that she can serve her lord only in the LORD. She has forgotten her Lord, or she despises her Lord. This spirit does not become a lady in the LORD. But her earthly lord and master should know he can only serve his Lord in the LORD and that he too, can only have one Lord in the LORD: ONLY ONE! It is to her confusion that because she must submit to her earthly husband in the LORD as her "one and only" she thinks her lord must likewise reciprocate to her in the same way. But my God is a jealous God and He says no such thing! Old Oneness pastors are well aware of this Jezebel spirit of Woman Worship but many modern pastors are forgetting due to neo-feminist oppression.


Neo-Feminist: God gave this absolute command regarding future kings of Israel ....telling them they must not do as the pagan nations around them (whose kings had their harems): "Neither shall he multiply wives to himself!" Saul, Israel's  first king, DISOBEYED God's command. He let demons take hold of him.

Jacobs_Trouble:  Let's look at this "absolute command" of yours that you say God keeps changing His mind about:

 Deuteronomy 17

1 Thou shalt not sacrifice unto the LORD thy God any bullock, or sheep, wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness: for that is an abomination unto the LORD thy God.

2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,

3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;

4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:

5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.

8 If there arise a matter too hard for thee in judgment, between blood and blood, between plea and plea, and between stroke and stroke, being matters of controversy within thy gates: then shalt thou arise, and get thee up into the place which the LORD thy God shall choose;

9 And thou shalt come unto the priests the Levites, and unto the judge that shall be in those days, and enquire; and they shall shew thee the sentence of judgment:

10 And thou shalt do according to the sentence, which they of that place which the LORD shall choose shall shew thee; and thou shalt observe to do according to all that they inform thee:

11 According to the sentence of the law which they shall teach thee, and according to the judgment which they shall tell thee, thou shalt do: thou shalt not decline from the sentence which they shall shew thee, to the right hand, nor to the left.

12 And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel.

13 And all the people shall hear, and fear, and do no more presumptuously.

14 When thou art come unto the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, and shalt possess it, and shalt dwell therein, and shalt say, I will set a king over me, like as all the nations that are about me;

15 Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother.

16 But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.

17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

18 And it shall be, when he sitteth upon the throne of his kingdom, that he shall write him a copy of this law in a book out of that which is before the priests the Levites:

19 And it shall be with him, and he shall read therein all the days of his life: that he may learn to fear the LORD his God, to keep all the words of this law and these statutes, to do them:

20 That his heart be not lifted up above his brethren, and that he turn not aside from the commandment, to the right hand, or to the left: to the end that he may prolong his days in his kingdom, he, and his children, in the midst of Israel.

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Aside from the obvious fact that these laws of sin and death are from that Levitical priesthood of which Paul stated was "... abolished.. even the law of commandments contained in ordinances" (Ephesians 2:15) we can plainly see how this "absolute command" of yours actually applies in its fully correct context. By your neo-feminist logic you are saying that a king may only own ONE HORSE, marry only ONE WIFE, and keep only modest sums of money. Are you sure that this is what God meant when He admonished His people that a king should not "multiply" horses, or wives, or much money?? Is it a sin for a king to have more than one horse? Do you think that King David only had one horse in his entire estate? True, that if he did only have one horse it would be impossible for that horse to multiply. Let's look again:  

But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way. Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

Aaah! This is all about money! The words "to the end" properly describe the REASON, the MOTIVE, the PURPOSE for which all of this "multiplying" is done. He may not multiply horses and wives for money (as they did in Egypt) that his heart should turn away and the people should return to captivity! Now it would stand to reason that "multiplying" wives is a great sin. No man should collect wives as cattle to engage in husbandry as if his wives were mere beasts! Yet nowhere, throughout all this scripture, do we read the words "only one wife". Clearly there's a difference between a man multiplying wives for profit and gain and God adding wives to a household as a blessing. We should be able to see how God could add wives unto David's household without violating His own ordinances. About a century ago it was the custom among certain cultures in my country to trade horses for wives. I wonder if the indigenous peoples of America have ancient roots in Egypt. One thing is certain: there is a difference between multiplying and simple addition. See: Evil Patriarchs  Let's not be presumptuous. Why should God break His own Law?

Neo-Feminist: There was polygamy in ancient Israel. But it was SIN! God condemned it -- He never condoned or sanctioned it.

Jacobs_Trouble: Nowhere in all of the Holy Bible will you read the words "only one wife". When King David received wives (plural) from the hand of God there is no question as to whether or not God sanctioned it. The word "condone" means to overlook, to ignore, to wink at. Of course God didn't ignore his gracious gifts to the king. In this respect you speak truly.

Neo-Feminist: They reaped what they sowed.  Israelites practiced what God had forbidden -- divorce and remarriage.

Jacobs_Trouble:  I was wondering when you would finally stoop to this, considering how you would equate godly marriage with adultery; but godly polygyny is godly marriage. There is no divorce in godly marriage -- there is only marriage.

Neo-Feminist: Jesus said: "Moses [not God] because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery"

Jacobs_Trouble:  I fully agree with the words of my Lord and Saviour Who knows that godly marriage is not the same thing as adultery and fornication. Why do you equate marriage with such things? Is it because you truly do not know the difference, or is it because you are merely in denial of the truth? This is no argument against godly polygyny, much less godly marriage.

Neo-Feminist: GOD has never legalized divorce and remarriage. It is not allowable today. It is done but it isn't right.

Jacobs_Trouble:  You add much to the word of God and many of the words you resort to are not found in the scripture. If you are saying that Moses put words in God's mouth you surely speak falsely. Deuteronomy 24 was given to Moses from the hand of God. But what has this to do with the subject at hand? I do not teach divorce so why do you condemn me, a man who has never divorced? The government could press such a letter upon me and yet I would not sign it. I would go to jail first. What. Would you have me divorce??? that I should satisfy your neo-feminist mandatory monogamy laws and evil inventions of men?

Neo-Feminist: Now CHRIST will never have but the ONE WIFE. One true Church. 

Jacobs_Trouble:  New Jerusalem was not the wife of God's youth but Heavenly Zion will surely come. The Lord Jesus has surely married a plurality within a singularity. We have been over this before. You know that the scripture cannot be broken. Jeremiah 3 tells us about the Lord's two wives of Old Testament times and how that Jesus was married to harlots. Some of these have repented. Verily these shall enter into the Kingdom before self-righteous Puritans.

Isaac had only one wife. Isaac's wife, Rebekah, like her mother-in-law, Sarah, was barren. But Isaac did not take things into his own hands and have children by her handmaids, or by concubines.....like many OT men did..... Neither did Rebekah do as Sarah had done, and resort to bringing a servant girl to Isaac to produce a son for Rebekah in this manner. Instead of using human reason, taking things into his own hands, Isaac TRUSTED GOD!  Men are not trusting God much these days!

Jacobs_Trouble: This is the second time you stated something that smacks of true doctrine. (The first time was when you began quoting the scripture as it was written.) Not only are men not trusting God much these days but neither are women. The world is becoming increasingly corrupt and desperately wicked.

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CONCLUSION

Jacobs_Trouble: To each man, his proper gift. In reading the story of Jacob it is not difficult to learn that an appropriate wife for the people of that day was a rare and precious thing. It should not come as any surprise that Isaac likely only had one wife. Nonetheless these words of yours, "only one wife" are not found in the scripture concerning Isaac either. Monogamy is not a sin. Neither is godly polygyny. Both equate to godly marriage in the Lord when it is received from the hand of God. David did not sin in receiving wives (plural) from the hand of God. Neither did Gideon. Saul and Solomon sinned: Saul followed after pagan gods as did Solomon, who multiplied wives instead of allowing the Lord to add wives unto him. 

Neo-Feminist: It is true that it was a worldly custom, in OT times, and in the days of the Kingdom of Isreal, for kings and wealthy men to take several wives. But God FORBADE polygamy for the kings of Israel.

Jacobs_Trouble:  Do you speak falsely with deliberation or did someone only teach you to spread such lies? Of course it is as you say, God did permit this custom among His people and the world. Never once did the LORD God FORBID godly polygyny ever! ... especially for the kings and men of Israel unto whom He added wives himself. You will not find such words in all the scripture. Please stop adding to the word of God. Please read the scripture as it is written that the Lord might open your eyes to FULL BIBLE TRUTH.

Neo-Feminist:  Hosea and other prophets constantly dwell upon the thought of monogamous marriage as being a symbol of the union of God and His people, and denounce idolatry as unfaithfulness to this spiritual marriage tie.

Jacobs_Trouble: Hosea and the other prophets constantly dwell on holiness unto God. Mandatory monogamy was not even a concept for them. It was unthinkable. None of these men have ever equated godly polygyny with adultery and fornication as you have done. You are projecting and reading your own personal words into the scripture and thereby blinding others from the true gospel message. Your insecurity is fear based. There is no love in this. You fear that godly men will take their rightful place in the Lord as lords over ladies in a plurality of wives. You fear that you will not be good enough for your own husband for you to keep him controlled and under your thumb because you want to be his "one and only". ONLY GOD is truly worthy to be any man's ONE AND ONLY. The neo-feminist spirit that controls you desires it to be the other way around. Is it any wonder that this self-same spirit also desired that Eve should rule over Adam to the extent that even the Lord HIMSELF should subject himself to be trampled under the feet of filthy men, all for the love of a woman to be ... RULED BY A SERPENT???

THINK ABOUT IT. This is a total inversion and perversion of the correct version that the LORD wants us to follow. Any woman demanding that she must be her husband's "one and only" secretly desires to control him and to exercise spirtual authority over him... but in the beginning it was not so. Let me tell you about the beginning. In the beginning Adam and Eve were both naked and they were not ashamed. Do you propose that we all remove our clothes permanently and follow their example? In the beginning there was only one woman and one man. Do you suggest that we all commit suicide with the exception of one man and one woman? Are you stating that we should all dispose of our homes and all our worldly possessions to get back to the garden? Dance around naked? Talk to the animals??? Do not wrestle the scriptures to your own destruction but learn to correctly divide the word of truth... or leave it alone.

Neo-Feminist:  It is spoken of as "THIS LAW" in verses 18 and 19. (Deut. 17:14, 17) THIS LAW

Jacobs_Trouble: This law is far beyond your comprehension because you call godly marriage adultery and fornication. This law is useless to you because you reject the truth. This law is an ordinance of the Levitical priesthood that is abolished and no longer pertains to this dispensation. AND for all this, "THIS LAW" does not FORBID the adding of wives unto a godly man! God will never break His own law and God added wives unto king David after "THIS LAW" was written. You surely do err not knowing the scripture. Are you sure you are Apostolic Oneness? Trinitarians have given me better arguments.

"And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh"

Neo-Feminist:  Notice, a man shall cleave to his WIFE -- not wives. And they TWO -- not he and several wives -- shall be one flesh.

Jacobs_Trouble: Where does the scripture say "not wives"? This is your own invention. Did Abraham not become one flesh with both Sarah and Hagar? Did not David become one flesh with his wives also? Do you even understand what the words "one flesh" actually mean? The scripture tells us that if a man lay with an harlot even they become ONE FLESH. In each and every case, whenever a man engages in copulation with a woman... they become ONE FLESH. Of course the twain become one flesh! How can it be otherwise? This does not mean that an husbandman cannot become ONE FLESH with a plurality of wives. Neither does it mean that God FORBADE such a thing. Fornication and adultery are sinful -- not marriage. Marriage is honourable in all. Remember???

 "What therefore GOD hath joined together, let not man put asunder" (Mat. 19:4-6).

 Neo-Feminist: It is what GOD joins together. That is the definition of MARRIAGE.

Jacobs_Trouble: Glory to God! Finally some truth! And God joined together Moses and his wives (plural)... and God joined together Jacob and his wives (plural)... and God joined together David and his wives (plural)... and God joined together Gideon and his wives (plural) and on and on and on it goes...

"What therefore GOD hath joined together, let not man [or woman] put asunder"

Jacobs_Trouble: Let me assure you of this much: you will not put asunder my marriage to my wives (plural).

Neo-Feminist: God does not join together one man with LOTS of women! Any woman a man may "marry" according to man's laws, in addition to the wife GOD joined him to, is NOT his wife, so long as his real wife lives. Any additional women in polygamy...... is plain ADULTERY! Remember the scriptures against adultery???  GOD never joins the second, let alone the additional "wives." They are NOT truly wives -- they are adulteresses, and the man becomes an adulterer. THIS BREAKS GOD'S LAW. IT IS SIN.

Jacobs_Trouble:  Where did you get this out of? Some Neo-Feminist New Age Bible? It certainly isn't in my AKJV. Scripture please. Look up the term "two wives". The word of God lists it twelve times in the AKJV. If the HOLY BIBLE RECOGNIZES that a man may have two wives who gave you the authority to teach God that He is a liar?

Neo-Feminist: The marriage relationship, in the New Testament, is the type of the relationship between Christ and God's Church.  Jesus Christ will marry only ONE Church -- the True Church of GOD....and all these worldly churches will be on the outside looking in! 

Jacobs_Trouble:  Sorry to hear you won't be joining us. There's still time to change your mind. You've more than adequately demonstrated to everyone that you're capable of that much. You know, you could always repent and get saved and you don't need to worry about water baptism considering how many times you've already done that. The selfless relationship of Jesus Christ and His Bride is WONDERFUL. You don't know what you're missing. It is a plurality of a multitude too great in number for any man to count in the singularity of a Beautiful Bride. Jesus still has room for you too. That's right, even you can be ONE with Jesus and the entire multitude. He is not selfish and neither are His people. We believe in sharing His love but please don't try to interpret our Father's love with your carnal, fleshly mind. God is a Spirit and must be worshipped in spirit and in truth. We know who the HUSBANDMAN is and His law is much better than the law of the Neo-Feminist Wifewoman. Come. Taste and see that the LORD is good.

Neo-Feminist:  There will be no multiple wives and there will be NO POLYGAMIST! 

Jacobs_Trouble: Let me guess... from the Neo-Feminist New Age perVersion again, right?

"Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honor to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and HIS WIFE hath made herself ready" (Rev. 19:7).

Neo-Feminist: Polygamy is a SIN. God condemns it! It is ADULTERY!

Jacobs_Trouble: Monogamy is sinful too, if it is worldly and unsanctified. Godly polygyny is holy and good. Moses made it to heaven eventhough he had more than one wife. Jesus wants you to know that David the Polygamist also made it to heaven... and so did many other men who had a multitude of wives on earth.  You would be surprised to learn how many. Perhaps one day you will know their number.

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. Revelation 7: 9-10 (AKJV)

 

... And to think that all of them will be married to Jesus in the Unity of the Bride. Are you sure you don't want to join us? There's still plenty of room left for True Worshippers.


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From: MSN Nicknamescannerman777Sent: 11/26/2006 7:08 PM
"Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honor to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and HIS [ONE AND ONLY] WIFE hath made herself ready" (Rev. 19:7).
 
Is this really what the scripture says or has it been added to? I submit that the pink stuff has to go. We need to read the scripture as it is written. Neither is it our place to council God. Note the following non-scriptural words of a woman struggling in the throes of neo-feminism:
 
Isaac had only one wife. Isaac's wife, Rebekah, like her mother-in-law, Sarah, was barren. But Isaac did not take things into his own hands and have children by her handmaids, or by concubines.....like many OT men did..... Neither did Rebekah do as Sarah had done, and resort to bringing a servant girl to Isaac to produce a son for Rebekah in this manner. Instead of using human reason, taking things into his own hands, Isaac TRUSTED GOD!  Men are not trusting God much these days!
 
 
What the unclean spirit is actually suggesting here in all subtilty, is that godly men should be subject to their wives just as Isaac was subject unto God through a comparison of Issac to Rebekah. There is a confusion of roles here. Instead of conceding as the Apostle Paul did with respect to marriage and the forbidding of marriage, every man having his proper gift, a perversion has manifested in a fashion that is not unlike the advocates of the "Church is the Son" doctrine.
 
It is sheer and utter confusion. This ungodly spirit would have a man regard his wife as his ONE AND ONLY both in body and in spirit! It begs to be worshipped and reverenced as a true saint regards his one and only God. It would even go so far as to use the example of a jealous God to justify itself in a false covering and false annointing that a woman should be so over her husband! God is not a woman that He should be so emmulated. This is vanity verging on blasphemy.

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