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Here we go..... Many assume that APOSTASION/divorced or writ and APOLUO are synonyms. Document your proof or otherwise don't make statements that you can't prove. The Bible even proves them wrong using the KJV because the Bible says: Thus saith the Lord: Where is the bill of your mother's divorcement(KERIYTHUWTH), whom I have put away(SHALACH)? Or which of my creditors is it to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away(SHALACH). Isaiah 50:1 The Bible even teaches in Isaiah 50:1 in the Hebrew that divorced and the putting away are totally different words and definitions. What are you going to say? The KJV lies? No way! A putting away will never be Sin-............onymous with a completed writ of divorcement. The synonym in the Hebrew that is put away is SHALACH. In the New Testament, the synonym for SHALACH or the putting away is APOLUO. The synonym in the Hebrew for divorced is KERIYTHUWTH. In the New Testament, the synonym for KERIYTHUWTH(divorced) is APOSTASION in Greek. NO ONE can MAKE a synonym out of APOSTASION and APOLUO or PUT AWAY and DIVORCED. It won't work. No matter what language you used. Same in the Hebrew. Not one person can make synonyms out of SHALACH(put away) and KERIYTHUWTH(divorced) . other ... But being used of divorce and being divorced with a writ is as the difference between night and day. One is legally married when put away or used of divorceAPOLUO but one is loosed from the responsibilities of marriage and the bond is dissolved when one is APOSTASION or divorced. A divorce process is not a divorce writ or complete divorce-ment. Even in natural law today, one can commit adultery during the separation period or the putting away...... but not after the finalization or writ is received. The reason for this is while one is separated or in a partial divorce(sending away) that mate is still married legally. That is called the putting away. The writ dissolves the bond and one is loosed from the law with a writ. Even when God divorced His one wife, He gave her a writ AND a putting away. Both are required and the writ is a command from God to legitimize the divorce. The writ is commanded in Deuteronomy 24:1-4(Moses commanded to give a writ of divorcement, AND to put her away - Matthew 19:7) Jesus did what He taught with Israel. And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, AND given her a bill of divorce(KERIYTHUWTH) .....Jeremiah 3:8 Do you think you can slide by and call a writ a putting away when God did both to get His divorcement legitimately. Are we smarter than He at his own law? He knew that only putting Israel away was treating her treacherously without a bill of divorcement. That is what the Pharisees were doing when they were arguing with Jesus. They were putting their wives away for any cause and not giving them a writ and the wives were still committing adultery in the street because they were still married legally and under the law they had to be stoned. But Jesus straightened the Pharisees out and He would straighten the legalists out today also by commanding them to give a writ and not just put away. Even today in Israel, it is necessary to have a writ of divorce for divorce to be complete. However, many are still put away and not divorced. The problem is still there. "While in most cases Judaism's tolerant acceptance of divorce enables a decent split, in too many situations this male prerogative becomes the means for extortion, vengeance and affliction--certainly not a biblical ideal. Thus, although her consent to the divorce is necessary, the woman is still at the mercy of the man. (This shows that women cannot divorce the men in Israel) In the course of the development of Jewish law, many improvements have been incorporated into the system in an attempt to limit the man's unilateral power and prevent the misery. The rabbis were aware of and sensitive to women's vulnerability. But....A Jewish divorce requires a get, a document that a man freely gives to his wife and she must voluntarily accept. Without this document neither partner may remarry according to Jewish law. Today, this affects Conservative, Orthodox and all Israeli Jews. The Reform movement often relies on local civil divorce courts and the Conservative movement has empowered its central court to intervene and act unilaterally to effect a divorce when there are insurmountable problems. But throughout Israel and in the Orthodox community outside of Israel, the pattern of insisting on the biblical directive has left too many women agunot. An agunah is a woman who cannot remarry because her husband is unable or unwilling to give her a get. The term literally means "anchored" or "tied down" and if first founnd in verb form in the biblical story of Ruth(1:13). The original talmudic use of the word was limited to cases in which the man had disappeared and literally could not act as a legal instrument in the Jewish divorce proceedings. Recently, popular usage has expanded the term to apply to all cases of women who are unable to remarry because their husbands will not acquiesce and give the divorce document." From "Jewish Women in Chains" Even today, women are in chains because of the hardness of man's heart. Men are still dealing treacherously with women even today and putting them away APOLUO and leaving them in limbo to commit adultery......without a writ of complete Divorcement. DO YOU think that the Jews are lying in the article above because they state that this is still going on and that putting away without a WRIT is dealing with them in a treacherous manner? If being divorced is the same as being put away, what are all these Jewish ladies concerned about??? It is the same in our culture. WOMEN TODAY are STILL left in a ste of vulnerability by being given a partial divorce or a putting away and are being caused to commit adultery through legal manipulation and intimidation. Under law and in the scriptures and historically the putting away is not a complete divorcement. The definitions in the Hebrew for SHALACH DO NOT EVEN MENTION DIVORCE. The scripture say s that God hates the putting away(divorce) SHALACH in Hebrew. If one wants to follow Hebrew instead of Greek to prove a point, look it up and see if SHALACH means divorced or being put away(divorce) and then look up the word(KERIYTHUWTH) in the Hebrew .They are not synonyms in either Greek, Hebrew or English. Divorce is a process. Divorced is a state of being. Put away is neither divorcement nor a writ. Did John and Jane have a sanctified marriage or a biblically unsactified civil one? That is also relevent in the matter at hand. Any comments? |
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lol.. This is a political issue, I take it. |
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yes Even today in Israel, it is necessary to have a writ of divorce for divorce to be complete. However, many are still put away and not divorced. The problem is still there. "While in most cases Judaism's tolerant acceptance of divorce enables a decent split, in too many situations this male prerogative becomes the means for extortion, vengeance and affliction--certainly not a biblical ideal. Thus, although her consent to the divorce is necessary, the woman is still at the mercy of the man. (This shows that women cannot divorce the men in Israel) In the course of the development of Jewish law, many improvements have been incorporated into the system in an attempt to limit the man's unilateral power and prevent the misery. The rabbis were aware of and sensitive to women's vulnerability. But....A Jewish divorce requires a get, a document that a man freely gives to his wife and she must voluntarily accept. Without this document neither partner may remarry according to Jewish law. Today, this affects Conservative, Orthodox and all Israeli Jews. The Reform movement often relies on local civil divorce courts and the Conservative movement has empowered its central court to intervene and act unilaterally to effect a divorce when there are insurmountable problems. But throughout Israel and in the Orthodox community outside of Israel, the pattern of insisting on the biblical directive has left too many women agunot. An agunah is a woman who cannot remarry because her husband is unable or unwilling to give her a get. The term literally means "anchored" or "tied down" and if first founnd in verb form in the biblical story of Ruth(1:13). The original talmudic use of the word was limited to cases in which the man had disappeared and literally could not act as a legal instrument in the Jewish divorce proceedings. Recently, popular usage has expanded the term to apply to all cases of women who are unable to remarry because their husbands will not acquiesce and give the divorce document." |
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I rather doubt that any of your posts would be deliberately deleted from this forum, righteousdart �?nbsp;unless of course you, or perhaps one of yours, decides to do the deleting. There is always the off-chance that MSN GROUPS would do something. Everyone who has not "plugged into" JESUS directly is part of the BEAST. That is why receiving the Holy Ghost isn't an option. I find no example of a woman divorcing any man in the scripture. I do read in the scripture that divorcement must be granted at the hand of the husbandman and no other if there is to be any divorce of any kind ever. It is not in the authority of the woman to exercise divorcement of a marriage, no matter what our so-called secular humanist "dignities" might tell us. The divorcement must come from the hand of the husbandman. PERIOD. A woman magistrate is an abomination in the sight of God; but the smorgasborg christians could care less. It was a woman magistrate that issued the divorcement of my father and mother. My mother is much worse off ever since she demanded a divorce. She lives in a miserable life now. The divorce nearly destroyed the both of them. My father did NOT want a divorce. This woman judge didn't care in the least what my father wanted. Over 80% of the divorces in North America today, are initiated at the of a woman. They will continue to select the scriptures that suit their personal agendas and leave the rest the scripture behind to rot in their vain and filthy imaginations. Will they ever be in for a surprise when they discover that not one jot, no, not one tittle of it passed away according to their false hope. On the plus side, here is something I thought was interesting: While my mother scrabbles to survive in her meager and miserable life, to cater and fawn to other men to assist her in her material needs, my father managed to keep his house and pay off his second mortgage in full, which he was forced to procure in order to grant her all of the money he was ordered to pay her. Whatever has happened to the "WHOLE COUNSIL OF HIS WORD"? Where did the money go that he gave my mother? It was a sizable sum but it is all squandered now. She can barely afford to pay the taxes on her old, and delapitated cabin which she also stole from my father. That is what this matriarchal, neo-feminist divorcement is: legalized and licensed theft, endorsed at the hand of a matriarch. It doesn't stop there. Now mother wants more. My father, who loves her still, even after all this, even to this day, still repairs her vehicles, helps her maintain the yard, and various other domestic tasks. He brings her fresh water, helps her with legal and financial matters, helps, helps, helps... WHY? Because Dad has the love of Jesus. Mother wants my father to give her a key to his house but refuses to extend the same courtesy to him. Her old cabin is on the verge of being condmened. She told him before she divorced him that he would be standing on a streetcorner with a suitcase in his hand by the time she was finished with him. She is much closer to that than he is. Is this not very telling about the typical worldly female? Now my father has a new car, a brand new trailer, quad, canoe, and the material blessings keep on pouring in. He is 69 years old. God is providing. Dad goes to church. He is a German baptist. He lives in his big old house all alone, with a cat and a dog. Women? I nearly envy him. Women love him. He could have a harem if he wanted one. My father looks at me and smiles, shakes his head, and says, "Son, you still have much to learn about women." I think he might be right. It is good for a man not to touch a woman. These women judges are supposed to be those "dignities" which our godless pastors preach about on Sunday morning, telling us that we must obey them. May God help me if I have to stand before a woman magistrate. All they do is bring an eternal curse upon our society. There are few dignities left in the world that are dignities indeed. In these latter days, I think it is better to obey God. |
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