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~~ I am my Father ~~

John 14:4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

Joh 14:5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Joh 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Joh 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

The false ‘Jesus-only�?doctrine rests heavily upon the MISINTERPRETATION of the above verses. If an interpretation is NOT written, just as spoken, and if it crosses other Scriptures, then know that the interpretation is FALSE. Truth cannot and does not contradict itself. All Scripture is the TRUTH of God. It is HIS word. Dare any of you call God a lie? Just because of your little lack of understanding?

So let’s examine the above in light of other Scripture. No man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Now they claim this means that Jesus is the Father. Then why didn’t he say so? Why did he say you can only come to the Father by himself? Is that sensible, to say you can only come to me by me?

If you had known me, ye should have known MY FATHER also. So, is it sensible to say, if you have known me, ye should have known me also? Do you really think this is what Jesus was saying? If you have known me, you should have known me also? Not hardly.

So then, seeing is understanding, right? Sure. If you have seen me, you have seen the Father also? (If you have seen me, you have seen me also???) So if someone asked me, show me your Mother…and because I do only the things my Mother does, I say, if you have seen me, you have seen my Mother also, because I do only what my Mother does……so in this, I have showed you, already, my Mother, by the very works I do and the words I say, for I only say what my Mother tells me to say�?so when you hear me…you hear my Mother. But instead of this, Jesus is supposed to have said, if you have seen me you have really seen me, for I am me, or rather I am my own Father. ?? Huh? Is that how you really think Jesus talked? Sounds rather looney to me.

Phillip, I have only done the works of my Father and only said the words of my father, so how can you say, shew us the Father? I have already shown him to you by my works and words. Proof? Sure: John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Joh 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

Don’t you believe that I am in the Father and the Father in me? (I am in me and me is in me also? Is that what you think Jesus said?)…No. He said God is a Spirit, and that Spirit of God is in me. He is telling me what to say, and I only say what he tells me to say. The words that I speak unto you, I speak not of my own thoughts, but the Father, which dwells in me, he does the works. Believe me. Do you believe Jesus? Believe me that I am in the father and the Father is in me, or else believe me for the very works�?sake.

If you cannot believe what I am saying, (Jesus speaking), then at least believe that the works I am doing is the works of my Father and the words I speak are my Father’s words. So I have already shown you my father. Now. (their version: I do not speak my own word, but I speak my words. I am in me and me is in me also. If you don’t believe this, then believe me, for I am in my self, and my self, is in me also.)

John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Now for the real bomb-shell�?he that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also, and even greater works than these shall he do�?so if the works prove that I am the Father, then shall you be the Father even more, for you can do the same works I am doing. So if I must be the Father to do this, then you will be even more-so the Father. And you can do greater works than this, because I am staying myself�?means my father.

Did he say that? Nope. He said you shall do greater than these BECAUSE I GO UNTO MY FATHER. (but really, I am my father, so I do not have to go to my father. He is in me, so I do not have to go anywhere to go to myself. I am the Father. I am always with the Father…don’t have to go anywhere to be with myself.) that is how the world teaches John 14.

John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

Ask in my name, and I will do it that I may be glorified in myself. HUH? Well, after all, self is the father of self? Right? According to the Jesus-only folks, this is the solid truth. And I am not changing a thing. This is just how it would have to read, if they are correct.

John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him

(Now, [and remember, I am only saying this as Jesus would have had to say it, according to the Jesus-only doctrine], He that loves me, will be loved of me, and I will love him.)

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. Joh 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

(If a man love me, he will keep my words, and I will love him and I [we] {see, he made a mistake here, by saying ‘we�?when he really means just me}, will come unto him and make my {our} {{same mistake again}}, (he thinks he is a plural being)), abode with him.

Now for the big lie! The word which ye hear is NOT MINE. Hear that? Jesus is telling one here, according to the �?I>jesus-only doctrine�?/I>. He said the word is NOT MINE. Yet he is the only one whose it could be?? Not mine, but the Father’s which SENT ME. (No, he had to say, not mine, but really is mine, (see, I am just kidding ((Jesus)) but is mine because I sent myself.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

(His words, according to them)�?I>The Comforter, is really me, in disguise, and myself will send my self in my name, and myself will teach you all things, and bring it to your memory, all I said unto you).

And last of all: John 14:31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

(According to them�?I>that the world may know that I love myself, and as myself gave myself commandment, even so I do.)

Now, I have not added a thing here, except exactly how it would have to read, if the Jesus-only doctrine were true. Did Jesus really speak that crazy? But the real proof is that it must not cross other Scriptures. Did they check this out? Not at all. Now don’t forget, Jesus told them, if you have seen me, you have seen my Father. And if you have known me, you should have known my Father also. From henceforth (this source) you have seen my Father.

So. (check it out)..

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. (You have seen God from me, this source, you have seen my Father. See, the son is in the bosom of his self and declares himself.)

1jo 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 1jo 4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. 1jo 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

(Yes, you have seen God when you looked at me, for I am God, said Jesus? Right? According to millions of church folks, this is right. If we love one another, I dwell in us and my love is perfected in us. We know we dwell in him and he is us, because he hath given us himself. We have seen that the Father sent the Father to be the Saviour, or the Son sent the Son to be the Saviour, or I sent myself to be the Saviour?)

Well, well. So it does cross Scripture. Two different verses saying that no man hath seen God at any time. Yet Jesus said if you see me, you have seen HIM. It also says here that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. It does not say the Son sent the son, or sent himself. It does not say the Father sent the Father or self.

Yet, in spite of all this solid proof, that they are misinterpreting John 14, they totally over-looked this and went right on in their false doctrine, teaching the world lies. In spite of all this proof, they had not considered that perhaps they are not seeing the real truth here. In spite of all this, an entire church is built upon this false, sand foundation of lies.

Do they really seek truth? Do they really care? Do they really love God?

By: Jo Smith �?Sept. 17, 2007

Daughter of Eve, you are no daughter of JESUS. That is why you reject HIM in place of another jesus, a BEJEUS JEZEBEL spirit. I know what you are and I have not yet taken the time to visit your site. I need not indulge in your putrification. Your doctrine stinks from where it sits. It is Satanic.

I know that the seed of the Woman is from my FATHER. I know that it was Eve who was beguiled and not the Adam. Christ is the NEW ADAM and you have nothing in Him.

Uppss, JT. Your horns are showing! Are you a twin to Bishoop? You cannot take Scripture and prove a thing. so it seems you are the one with the false Jesus...claiming Mary gave birth to god. that is what stinks.

Not one single Apostle taught that. Jesus did not teach that. I say exactly what they said. that is what you really hate. You are not honest enough with Scripture to even check this out.

Because you are of your father, old deceiver, first-man Adam, you take his case. You are the one in the kingdom of Satan. Jesus' kingdom does not condone two wives. it requires us to deny ourselves and take up a CROSS and follow him.

Follow him? Did he take two fleshly wives? of course not. Did Paul? course not! Peter? course not! Did they treat people with the venom you are treating me? Make up lies on them? call them ugly, evil, false names?

It is satan's cowardly way of dealing, when he knows he is proven to be wrong and cannot find a way out of his cornor.

Here is what brother Paul had to say, (but it is God's word) about your darling Adam:

Ro 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Ro 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Ro 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

Ro 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

Ro 5:16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

Ro 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

Ro 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Ro 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Ro 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

Ro 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

Now, is all honesty, the woman is not once mentioned in all of the above. She is not the one who disobeyed God and brought sin and condemnation and death to all mankind. Your darling, Adam, is the guilty one.

and that is not all the Word as to say about this rebellious, evil reprobate. and don't go trying to tell me that God did not tell it like it was!!

More later.

If I were not of Jesus, I could not be a daughter of Eve. All who are not of the true Jesus are of their father, the devil Adam.

There are only two kingdoms in all the world of God's word. That is the kingdom of man, or Satan, or first-man, Adam. and the kingdom of second-man, Jesus.

the first and fallen, dead kingdom is that of Adam, LAW. sanctified by the blood of animals. No salvation there. It is DEATH. By this one man, Adam, DEATH passed on all. As in ADAM ALL DIE.

That is where you are.

On the other hand, there is the kingdom of GRACE. It is sanctified by the blood of Jesus. He is the WOMAN'S seed. God promised EVE, YOUR SEED, will bruise the head of that old serpent. a secret: the SEED is the spiritual SEED. That seed began in EVE, NOT ADAM. it is the spiritual seed of LIFE which Eve passed down to the righteous.

Jesus killed that old head of ADAM. and set up the head of CHRIST.

Eve is the MOTHER, or originator of these righteous people.

Adam is the father, or originator of the dead, condemned rebellious sons of satan. All who refuse the truth of Grace, live accordingly, are in the condemned kingdom of first-man, Adam.

That old outer man is what you must destroy, kill, mortify, in order to have eternal life.

Since you obviously have nothing but contempt for Eve, and love old man Adam, it proves which one of us is in HIS KINGDOM.

all the OT folks, except the very few, I have already shown you, who found grace, were under old Adam's head or kingdom. that is why they could take more than one wife, and do all manner of other sins. They were under the blood of animals, and had no covering for their sins.

those under grace did not take two wives. They did not sacrifice animals to God. They knew better. Noah backslid after the flood, for a time, and went right back to that animal sacrifice, and that is how he became the second head of the beast. But I am sure that is too far above your carnal head. You could never see that! Adam has you blinded and deceived, as he does all who cleve to him.

Eve is the MOTHER OF ALL LIVING. Adam is the parent of the DEAD. by HIM DEATH PASSED ON ALL.

As in Adam all die. (fight with God. He is the one who said all of this)

1Cor 15:16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:

1co 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

1co 15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.

1co 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

1co 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

1co 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

1co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. (here are the two covenants, the two sons, the two kingdoms. there is none else.)

If Christ were not raised, there would be no eternal life. In Adam all are DEAD. No life! by this one man, Adam, came DEATH. As in ADAM all DIE.

Now brother, show me one single verse of God which puts this blame on Eve, as all you men and most women do. it is not there.

He is the one who sinned, he is the one who disobeyed and brought condemnation and death on all people.

Until Christ raised from the dead, all were dead in trespasses and sins. No sins were covered or remitted until after the resurrection of JESUS CHRIST, the seed of the woman.

Sure, you hate this truth. So does almost everyone else. But it is death. It is your love for darkness rather than light. Men will not come to the light, because their deeds are evil.

Paul, to Timothy:

2Tim 1:5 When I call to remembrance the unfeigned faith that is in thee, which dwelt first in thy grandmother Lois, and thy mother Eunice; and I am persuaded that in thee also.

..unfeigned FAITH. The law is not of FAITH.. in thee, which dwelt FIRST in they GRANDMOTHER Lois, and they MOTHER, Eunice.

Now there is where that Godly SEED, or faith in Timothy, came from........those WOMEN. It is the seed of the WOMAN....faith.

Eve passed this Godly SEED to Seth, and so on. down to Jesus Christ. it was in Mary, another daughter of EVE.

Now brother, stop foaming at the mouth. Take Scripture and prove this wrong. Prove Eve to be the wicked one.

I dare you!

Jo, proud to be a daughter of Eve, thereby, of Jesus.

Jake, why don't you search the Scripture to prove if I am saying truth or not? why don't you study to shew yourself approved to God?

You know that you do not know, because you have not studied this ...you are only accepting the false teachings handed down to you by your rebellious fathers.

Look up the Word, EVE, in the original hebrew. It means RESTORER TO LIFE.

All the other meanings of this word have to do with giving LIFE.

Adam means a hypocrite and an evil, common sort of man.

Look it up. see that I am teaching truth.

God did not rail against Eve. His word does not cut her down. It cuts Adam down. Adam is the wicked one. He is the one who brought sin and death into this world.

If you think otherwise, I challenge you to find Scripture and prove it. Why are you not searching to find out if this is true or not?

You act just like all other men I show these truths to....foam at the mouth and spew out your venomous words of lies, mockery, and slander.

It is nothing in the world but that same old evil spirit from Adam.

His spirit still rules you men. it ruled all through the OT, except for a very few, who found grace.

Many women found grace, and all of them prophesied the Word of God. It is written.

Want some proof? Read the prophecy Of Hannah. Read the prophecy of Huldah.

Anna. Elizabeth, Mary, and there are others. Their prophecy is written Scripture,,,,the word of God.

So how say men that they cannot speak the word of God?

It is old man, Adam. Adam, man, has been on the wrong 'foot' since he tricked Eve into obeying him. He is under on-going punishment of not having the helpmeet which he needed and still needs, but does not have.

when a man rules over a woman, she is in bondage, and cannot possibly be a helpmeet to him. so he is lost, cannot find his way back to God. Only the true NT Christian men, like Peter and Paul, found their way out of that tangled jungle, of man ruling.

As long a man rules this world, the church, the homes, they are in trouble and disaster. Only God can send deliverance. He will do so by letting the FIRST DOMINION COME TO THE DAUGHTER OF ZION.

I dare you to read the following and find Adam in it:

Mic 4:13 Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass: and thou shalt beat in pieces many people: and I will consecrate their gain unto the LORD, and their substance unto the Lord of the whole earth.

Mic 4:6 In that day, saith the LORD, will I assemble her that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted;

Mic 4:7 And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the LORD shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever. (this is the remnant of Christ Jesus) It is female. (where SHE is gathered and restored, Christ rules. glory!)

Mic 4:8 And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion; the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem.

Mic 4:9 Now why dost thou cry out aloud? is there no king in thee? is thy counsellor perished? for pangs have taken thee as a woman in travail.

Mic 4:10 Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the LORD shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies. (you men are our enemies. that is where the enemity was placed)

Mic 4:11 Now also many nations are gathered against thee, that say, Let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion.

Mic 4:12 But they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither understand they his counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor.

Mic 4:13 Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass: and thou shalt beat in pieces many people: and I will consecrate their gain unto the LORD, and their substance unto the Lord of the whole earth. (according to you adamic men, we cannot arise and thresh. But God said we will. He ordained it.) so now dispute with God.

btw, that's exactly what I am doing! You other daughters of God, rise and tresh. God has ordained it and will empower us. Glory to His Most Holy Name.

Ok, Jake. He is not ONE in the way you think. He is not 1 person. He is not 1 spirit. he is not the only 1.

Ok, Jo. You think what you will. JESUS is ONE in every way. You cannot give me a single example of a way in which GOD is not ONE and JESUS is GOD. When you say that HE "is not the only 1", I already know I'm dealing with a spiritual whore. Don't take it so hard. Most people are whores. There will be more human souls roasting in hell than there will be in heaven giving JESUS the GLORY.

He is not alone, as you think. Jesus said, I am NOT ALONE. why do you not believe him. He said the Father is WITH ME. He never said, as you do, the Father is me. He never, ever said I am God. He never said I am my own father, as you say.

No HE is certainly not alone. The Person of the Almighty God is not without the Spirit of His Father. The twain are one Jo: One Spirit, One Person, One God. The Person of the Almighty God is none other than Christ Jesus. There is no "other". Christ Jesus verily stated that the Father was in Him. Do you not know this scripture? Christ is in JESUS, and JESUS is in Christ! Think about it! Christ Jesus came to this earth in the NAME of the FATHER! He is all of GOD that you will ever see with your eyeballs, sister. Christ Jesus also said that if He bear witness of Himself His witness would not be true. Christ stated He had a greater Witness �?/FONT> even the HOLY GHOST! I declare to you that I have this Witness and I know that JESUS is God, very God. You bear false witness because you bear witness of yourself. You know not what you worship, therefore your witness is not true.

So you are not saying what Jesus taught.

You speak falsely like all the rest of the witches before you.

John 14

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. 11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

I ask you for one scripture where Jesus said, I am really God. I am god incarnate. or in the flesh, or anything of that sort.

Again. Jesus said that if He bear witness of Himself His witness would not be true. The HOLY GHOST, the SPIRIT and FATHER of the Christ, bears Witness that Christ Jesus is the Person of the Father. Christ Jesus (The Living Word) is the Word made Flesh.

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Sure, I teach Hebrews one. but you cannot teach it in its truth, so long as you believe that Jesus is the Father of himself. He is our Father. and He is our God, because his Father and His God set it to be that way.

You teach lies and you love the lie and promote it in your vain glory and witchcraft. You're a mess. You fail to understand that JESUS is the Father of Christ because you do not understand that Christ came to us in the name of the FATHER. Now it is true that the Christ is our Father and can be called the Everlasting Father (Isaiah 9:6). Christ said it best when He stated, "I and my Father are one." The reason for this is because there is no other Person that represents the Father in Spirit and in Truth as the Christ did before He was crucified. Christ is the seed of the woman and the only begotten Son of God. All the FULLNESS of the GODHEAD dwelt in Christ Jesus, bodily. No mortal will ever be able to make such a claim. Christ is UNIQUE.

Hebrews one proves this. Are you too blind to see what you are reading? Of course you are. false doctrine has blinded you.

Your arrogance cannot save you in this place. You say you see, therefore you are blind. I have given you time to see and yet you are still lost. The true Gospel is hidden from you. Hebrews One proves that JESUS is GOD. Check verse 8: But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Do you think God is the firstbegotten?

GOD is the firstbegotten in the person of the Son, yes. JESUS is the FIRST and the LAST. The Alpha and the Omega. There can be only ONE.

Do you really think that God is calling himself his own Son?

Do you have someone "better" in mind? Someone perhaps, who is more "worthy"?

Did God say, I will be to myself a father and to myself a son?

Isaiah 63

4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come. 5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.

Of course not. did he say, this day I begot myself.?

Isaiah 54

5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

The Maker is His own Person. Only GOD is able to make Himself human. He begat His own Humanity, the Christ, in the fullness of times, Who is the firstbegotten of all Humanity

Tell me this. when you think of God as leaving heaven, where he fills the heaven and heaven of heavens, and then he left that, and came down and placed HIMSELF into that tiny egg of Mary, and made himself into a human baby, what do you think was left in Heaven? Was God void of the universe then and only existed as a microscopic cell growing in a woman's body?

With GOD, all things are possible. It surely would not matter if all the fullness of the GODHEAD dwelt in Christ Jesus bodily, now would it? The entire universe would also be within that tiny egg you mention and the universe wouldn't even know it. Ye of little faith and much witchery, consider this, a ruler. The ruler is marked off in incremints. There is a point at which the ruler does cease to exist. It is finite. At both ends of the ruler is non-ruler. Now please, let us break down the incremints to the smallest ever designed... Let us break them down again... And again... And again... You see? You cannot stop. The ruler is internally infinate. The ruler is externally finate.

Are not all things possible with GOD? Do you doubt HIS ability? Is your faith really so weak? Of course it is. You are a witch and you do not have this capacity to see GOD as I do. You need to be born of the water and of the SPIRIT! You need the HOLY GHOST! But you will not because the love for the truth is not in you. You worship another Jesus �?/FONT> even JEZEBEL, the Bejeus spirit.

Did god exist then, outside of Mary? Was the Eternal, all powerful God actually growing inside a human woman? Is that what you really believe?

If you are suggesting that I am saying that Mary gave birth to GOD, think again. I am saying that the Christ is HIS person, conceived of the EVERLASTING FATHER, that HIS flesh and blood should even be CALLED the EVERLASTING FATHER, and that this PERSON is the Humanity of the Living GOD, representing the Human Form of HIS ROYAL MAJESTY, the KING of Kings. I do not dispute that all the fullness of the GODHEAD dwelt in the MAN, Christ Jesus, bodily, because I also know that as far as the tabernacle is concerned, that the Humanity of GOD also had it's limits �?how else is it possible that the Christ was "human" if it were impossible that the tabernacle of flesh and blood could not die? What is MORE important is that the Christ returned to the FATHER (SPIRIT) and as the LIVING WORD, still dwells among flesh and blood today in a SPIRITUAL BODY. The Tabernacle is ascended and ONLY ONE sits upon the throne! (BTW... HE does not sit as a Queen) JESUS is the COMFORTER and JESUS is the HOLY GHOST. JESUS is the EVERLASTING FATHER and JESUS is the LORD. The Christ is JESUS because JESUS is in the Christ Who came to us in the name of the FATHER WHO is a SPIRIT! Mary gave birth to the tabernacle of the LORD's very own flesh and blood, but she did not give birth to the HOLY GHOST, the FATHER of that flesh and blood, of WHOM the Christ child was conceived. I do not nearly believe as Roman Catholics would have us believe, that Mary gave birth to GOD. Mary gave birth to the Humanity of GOD.

Where is Scripture saying any of this? It does not exist. so it is added junk. and if the Jesus-only doctrine is true, then this has to be what happened.

Why are you so sure? Were you "JESUS ONLY" at one time? Have you received the Holy Ghost since you believed? I don't think you did. If you did, then you have bigger problems than to waste your time on a p.c. You are about to lose your soul in eternity �?is that what you want?

you mean to tell me you really believe that Mary had the eternal God inside her womb? and she gave birth to the eternal God? That is catholic lies.

Well, I see that at least we agree on this point. (That is, if you mean what you type.)

And was God no where else, but inside Mary? and was God no where else except inside Jesus?

Thank about what this doctrine really does blaspheme and say.

GOD is everywhere. That does not mean that all of the FULLNESS of the GODHEAD was not in the Christ but only the Christ was and is EQUAL to GOD in SPIRIT and in TRUTH. As for the tabernacle upon which you continue to stumble, I have already stated my position. Only JESUS can remove the veil from your eyes so that you too, might receive the revelation of the Only Wise GOD. JESUS can transform into anything HE wants but there is ONLY ONE PERSON of GOD, WHO is GOD! HE is RISEN!

No Scripture says that God took on himself human flesh. Yet you all, trinities and oneness alike, declare this lie.

You both declare the incarnation LIE. It is catholicism.

You think God died on a cross? No Scripture teaches this.

I must tell you, daughter of Eve, that it was the BLOOD of GOD ALMIGHTY that was shed upon that cross.

you think a dead god raised that dead god back to life? think about what you are really saying.

The Humanity of the Almighty did verily die briefly when the Christ gave up the Ghost... but what then? Was it possible that it should be in bondage to death? Nay, but my LORD set the captives free! He is now HE, even GOD! All HUMANITY now has this opportunity to become even as the Christ before He ascended into the heavens! We shall be like Him! Yes, we, who are HIS, will be Brothers and Sisters and joint heirs with HIS Humanity, partakers of the INHERITANCE, in glorified and risen bodies! Now THAT is the reason for the death of the Christ! GOD sacrificed HIS own HUMANITY for our sakes and shed HIS own flesh and blood on that cross! You would do well to heed these words, daughter of Eve. Your witcheries will not save you from the wrath to come!

If Jesus were God as you think, then this would have to be true. John baptized God? really? Man killed God? really?

God is the father of God? really? God is the son of God? really? God was a man? yet the Word says that God is not a man, neither the son of man. ever read that?

The spirit of the Christ is the SPIRIT of GOD. The fleshly tabernacle of the Christ is the fleshly tabernacle of GOD. When John the Baptist baptized the fleshly tabernacle called the Christ and the Son of Man, the Christ received the HOLY GHOST without measure! Even prior to this the Christ already had the HOLY SPIRIT because of Who and what He was! The Son of Man is the Humanity of the ALMIGHTY GOD! That is why the BLOOD of JESUS covers ALL of my sin �?nbsp;not just some of it, but ALL OF IT! And all of the fullness of the Godhead did indeed dwell in the Christ, bodily from that day forth. Mary did not give birth to all of GOD. THAT is preposterous indeed! What "JESUS ONLY" person ever told you this? Mary gave birth to HIS Humanity. That's it. That's all.

May JESUS, the ONLY WISE GOD, open your eyes, your ears, your heart, and your understanding.

JT

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<NOBR>Ga 3:24</NOBR>	Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
<NOBR>Ga 3:25</NOBR>	But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
<NOBR>Ga 3:26</NOBR>	For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
<NOBR>Ga 3:27</NOBR>	For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
<NOBR>Ga 3:28</NOBR>	There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
<NOBR>Ga 3:29</NOBR>	And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Explain that ONENESS!

The spirit of the Christ is the SPIRIT of GOD. The fleshly tabernacle of the Christ is the fleshly tabernacle of GOD. When John the Baptist baptized the fleshly tabernacle called the Christ and the Son of Man, the Christ received the HOLY GHOST without measure! Even prior to this the Christ already had the HOLY SPIRIT because of Who and what He was! The Son of Man is the Humanity of the ALMIGHTY GOD! That is why the BLOOD of JESUS covers ALL of my sin �?nbsp;not just some of it, but ALL OF IT! And all of the fullness of the Godhead did indeed dwell in the Christ, bodily from that day forth. Mary did not give birth to all of GOD. THAT is preposterous indeed! What "JESUS ONLY" person ever told you this? Mary gave birth to HIS Humanity. That's it. That's all. [jt]

GOD sacrificed HIS own HUMANITY for our sakes and shed HIS own flesh and blood on that cross! You would do well to heed these words, daughter of Eve. Your witcheries will not save you from the wrath to come [JT}

GOD is everywhere. That does not mean that all of the FULLNESS of the GODHEAD was not in the Christ but only the Christ was and is EQUAL to GOD in SPIRIT and in TRUTH. As for the tabernacle upon which you continue to stumble, I have already stated my position. Only JESUS can remove the veil from your eyes so that you too, might receive the revelation of the Only Wise GOD. JESUS can transform into anything HE wants but there is ONLY ONE PERSON of GOD, WHO is GOD! HE is RISEN! [JT]

only one ?Person? of God. God is not a ;person;.

where you get such? prove it with Scripture. God is a SPIRIT. so said Jesus. Jesus is not a spirit...so said Jesus.

God is not a person.. 1 person?

1co 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

1co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

1co 12:14 For the body is not one member, but many.

1co 12:15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 1co 12:16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?

1co 12:17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?

1co 12:18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. 1co 12:19 And if they were all one member, where were the body?

1co 12:20 But now are they many members, yet but one body.

1co 12:21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.

1co 12:22 Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:

1co 12:23 And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.

1co 12:24 For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked:

1co 12:25 That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.

1co 12:26 And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.

Another witness:

Ro 12:4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:

Ro 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

Ro 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

If Jesus is God, how is he heirs of God? And joint-heirs with us? You are so far off base, you are not even in the right field.

2Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Christ is the IMAGE OF GOD.

1co 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

So is Christ, who is the image of God. One , GET THAT, ONE body made up of MANY MEMBERS�?.SO IS CHRIST. WHO IS THE IMAGE OF GOD�?SO GOD IS A HEAVENLY BODY MADE UP OF MANY MEMBERS�?.ALL UNITED INTO A PERFECT ONENESS…�?.UNITY�?.EQUALITY…�?PERFECT LOVE.

well, hello again.

Proved you CANNOT take any truth! I knew you could not take the pure word much longer.

Post it to the world. No one here is seeking any truth, for when it is put in your faces, you reject it and run and can do nothing but spew out evil, ugly name calling.

But see, you could not keep me out if you wished to do so.

but do not fear, I will not stay. Had not intended to come back before, but you had to goad me into it.

I have no desire to deal with such evil speaking dogs. Knew you could not discuss Scripture. You have none to deal with. that is really what you hate, not me. You hate it that I have pure Scripture to teach, and you have none.

So now. Slander me on and on. but you proved you cannot take any truth. You are sons of Satan.

Satan is a MALE you know. he is not a female.

Jesus is the seed of the WOMAN, EVE, you know.

So hate her on, too. Jesus put down the men from their SEATS, (means place of rulership, you know,) and EXHALTED them of low degree, (means the trodden down WOMEN, you know).

So go fight with HIM. He did it.

He sent a flood because of men taking more than one wife, you know.

No Sons of God existed since then, until Jesus came, preaching that it must go back to the beginning, of the WIFE being the one and only one.

Wife of youth = wife of the Covenant. Mal.

What Covenant? Grace. The one you father, old Satan Adam threw away.

So no one is in Grace who has two.

And don't forget, Jesus called it FIVE HUSBANDS.

sO YOU Ladies, go get yourselves five husbands.

After all, Jesus did not rebuke her for having FIVE HUSBANDS.

Watch out. Here comes the foaming-at-the-mouth, mad dogs!

By, by. enjoy yourselves. Hell awaits you at the end of the way. You have rejected the Grace Covenant, for the dead old law covenant.

and you wish to teach others to do the same. bad, bad, bad you.

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