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From: MSN Nicknamescannerman777  in response to Message 1Sent: 11/11/2006 6:27 PM
The good thing about being management in one's own forum is that one is not likely to get kicked out of it for stating what they are moved by the Holy Ghost to proclaim in the name of Jesus.
 
For this reason I have copied the words of PastorswifePurity in my post here, into FULL BIBLE TRUTH, where my opponent is also a member and is welcome to challenge my statements without fear of getting her membership terminated simply because we don't see eye-to-eye on an issue. This is one essential difference between the management of APO and the management here, of  FULL BIBLE TRUTH. For as long as the MSN GROUPS rules are followed and the name of the LORD is not disrespected, you will get a fair hearing without getting gagged or worse. My job is to generate a forum for people to share ideas, to learn what is written in the Holy Bible, and to expound on the word of God. Punishment is God's department and I am not God.
 
I would like to begin by stating that I have two wives. My personal life and what exactly occurs in the privacy of my bed room is my own personal business but I will make no secret of the fact that I do indeed have two wives and that the Holy Bible neither condemns this practice or requires that it be done in secret. Therefore I openly proclaim the full Bible truth boldly before my God without shame. I have nothing against anyone who exercises their right to disagree with me concerning my position so long as they do not resort to calling me names or undermining the reputation of my wives.
 
So let's begin at the beginning:
 
" You haven't broken any rules.  I am not talking to you as "management"...
I am simply talking to you as someone that is curious.  As you know, I am pretty lenient in APO... for the most part.  I did read some (not nearly all) of the thread. I have to say that I disagree with a lot of it. I am certainly not making a correction concerning you and I apologize if you think I am. Even though I do disagree... I am just curious by nature.  And I hold very strong opinions. I realize you don't know me very well and I hope you don't think I am attacking you in any way.  Because I am not. "
 
These are the words of a pastor's wife addressed to another member in her own forum. She is completely entitled to her words until she resorts to abusing the names of others to deliberately imply falsehoods and to tarnish the credibility of others in an ungodly exploit to ruin their character. I should like to point out that PastorswifePurity has been acquainted with me for nearly three years. There is no cause for this sort of defamation by her hand. No, she wasn't attacking the person that she addresses the post to - instead, she attacks me and my house as you will soon see:
 
"I still think the scriptures on adultery speak for themselves.  KJV: Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be."
 
Well, that is all well and good because adultery is sinful and the carnal mind is indeed at enmity with God so it does not surprise me that the carnal mind would equate marriage with adultery as you will see PastorswifePurity do further into this text. She goes on to state the following:
 
There is probably something I should tell you.  In all  honesty, I am not the least bit impressed with how educated a person is in the ways of the world and carnal flesh, etc.... I am not the least bit impressed with the scholarship of scannerman (aka Jacobs Trouble) and Everett.  I am completely disgusted with polygamy.  I don't mind one bit if you guys wish to continue discussing it and I might join in from time to time.  Even though you don't consider my thoughts on the topic to be a worthy force of the opposition!  LOL.
 
Sure. She isn't impressed with the dedication and diligence with which God fearing Elders have endevored in a loyal devotion to the scripture to reveal full Bible truth. Is it any wonder that her arguments against Godly polygamy are so weak? Notice how she equates studying God's word with "the ways of the world and carnal flesh, etc." simply because she finds polygamy disgusting. Of course she does! Did she not just pronounce judgment on herself by her own admission in stating that "the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be."???
 
But she must fill up the cup to state the following words to attack me and to defame me: "Please don't be offended if I am plain spoken.  I am not the least bit angry.... but I find polygamy disgusting and I wouldn't be surprised if scannerman was the atheist calling himself Canada Writer.  Though I certainly wouldn't accuse him of it without being sure." I am confident that she knows that I am not Canada Writer, a warlock who resides in eastern Canada, who brought two lesbians into APO and pronounced all manner of blasphemy in the group even after she terminated my membership in favor of keeping the servants of satan in her company. I wish that were all, but she goes on to say, " I'll just use my little humble, southern, biblical believing views and let the educated polygamists ones give it their best shot. Adultery is wicked!  Some married couples are so hardened in their hearts that they have open-marriages (or polygamist ones). Such practices are evil and an abomination unto God.  God is jealous over us, and we should be jealous over our spouse, in a godly way.  Something is wrong with a wife who doesn't mind her husband being a whore monger." 
 
Okay, that's the last straw. I do not take kindly to people (no matter how holy they might think they are) insinuating that my wife, who was in every wit a virgin when we united together in marriage, is now an adulteress and a whore simply because my wives understand that God does indeed permit certain godly men a plurality of wives. Moreover she implies, in her fleshly arrogance, that I am but a "whore monger" when I have been faithful to BOTH my wives since the day we married and I can confidently say that I have been married for at least as long as she has, if not longer. I have no reason to commit adultery so why does she keep insisting that godly marriage is adultery? A: Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be."
 
Then she tacks on a bunch of Bible verses that have absolutely nothing to do with living godly, polygynous marriages but certainly do apply to vain imaginations:
 
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
 
Sure. And her point?

"...but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge." -Hebrews 13:4

Sure. And her point?

"Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children" -2nd Peter 2:14

Sure. And her point?

"Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts" -2nd Timothy 3:5,6

I repeat: And her point? 

"Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge." -Hebrews 13:4

Well now... If she really believed that, why is she confusing godly marriage with whoremongers and adulterers who have no respect for marriage whatsoever? Obviously there is a considerable difference between consenting adults who have married one another and are committed to one another for the rest of their lives and whoremongers and adulterers. She says that polygamy is evil and that it is an abomination unto God but she cannot even produce ONE SINGLE BIT OF SCRIPTURE ... not ONE VERSE... that supports her position - so instead she turns to scriptures that address adultery and equates godly marriage with adultery. I know of Mormons that can put up a better argument against polygamy than this pastor's wife and you can be rest assured that they're not polygamous but I AM. 

Friends, what we are observing here is the sanctimonious self-righteous spirit of carnal pride in opposition to godly, polygynous marriage and I am fully ready to defend my position in the LORD to prove beyond a shadow of doubt that godly polygyny is NOT a sin. 



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     re: Bible Polygamy is Adultery?   MSN NicknameJacobs_Trouble  11/11/2006 7:03 PM