You have a watchful eye, Joseph7. I am watching also. I only pray that if you should receive the FULL REVELATION of what has happened to us over these last 1600 some years, that you do not become consumed by your outrage as I nearly did. Watch the link called ZEITGEIST and do not be amazed. It is not true religion. JESUS is LORD. Joseph, we are robbed of our heritage in the LORD JESUS on a daily basis and we still are made to believe a GREAT ROMAN LIE that has been in force for over 1600 years. Our Society is become steeped in GNOSTIC CONTROL. The ladies (may God bless their hearts) are not able to see all that the true worshippers blessed with wives are able to see because as God fearing men we are supposed to take care and take charge of our houses! Therefore we read that women and children do rule over GOD'S PEOPLE and they are DESTROYED for a lack of knowledge, Joseph, my brother... A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. As for my beloved sister, Lisa, I can only offer this wisdom: "A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife (NOT 2, NOT 50) , vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;" 1 Timothy 3:2 Lisa, I see that you still want to add to the truth and read your own private interpretation into it. The scripture does not say "NOT 2, NOT 50", but the scripture says, "TWO WIVES" many times and MORE times than it says "one wife" AND... the scripture never says "ONLY ONE WIFE". GOD says "TWO WIVES". Do you mean to correct GOD also? Do you mean to say that Abraham was NOT the husband of ONE WIFE? Are you saying that HAGAR and ABRAM were never ONE FLESH"? Do you want us to believe that JACOB was NOT the husband of ONE WIFE? Are you saying that MOSES does NOT satisfy the criteria for being the HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE? You would correct GOD also? If I owned a two trucks and someone asked me if I owned a truck should I say, "NO"? THAT word in the BIBLE: "ONE" literally means "A" in the Greek. Now I do know that the Greek Interlinear (eventhough it is older than the KING JAMES) is not allowed in this place from former experience so I would encourage others to look it up for themselves. Paul gave his reason for men in positions of leadership in the Bible in verse 5 of the scripture you keep quoting: " For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God? "
Show me one scripture in the NEW TESTAMENT where any man of God had more than one wife. Until you do that, you are proving nothing. Absolutely Nothing If I did this, would you be faithful and not unbelieving? I rather doubt it. I know that you have already MADE UP your mind about this. You want to believe what works for you and what serves your own neo-feminist agenda. You do not even know how steeped in GNOSTICISM the church is become. I have already proven that GOD called it "TWO WIVES" and you already reject the word of GOD when it is set before you plainly. Lisa, I don't have to prove anything to you. The scripture gives FULL ACCOUNT. Either you receive it or you do not. The scripture is surely there. Look for it yourself. You have obviously not looked thoroughly enough. You want us to believe that GOD "changed His mind". You want us to think that what the CHANGELESS ONE declared RIGHTEOUS is no longer RIGHTEOUS. You want us to believe that GOD has changed HIS position on MORALITY. I am saying that He is the same JESUS, yesterday, to day and for ever. Rather show me where it is written in the FULL volume of the BOOK, that the LORD GOD has FORBIDDEN "TWO WIVES" and then I will answer you with more New Testament examples of "MORE than one wife"; and if you will receive it, I have already answered you; but because you say you see you are blind, therefore I know that the truth is not in you.
I want you to show me one scripture that states that Abraham was married to multiple wives and that God was pleased with it. I want you to show me one scripture that states that God was displeased that Abraham was married to two wives first... AND CALLED IT ADULTERY. Would you have us believe that Abraham surprised GOD when He took Hagar to wife? Do you honestly think GOD didn't know this would happen? Why did GOD not confront Abraham for committing Adultery? Do you still maintain that GOD has changed His mind about what adultery is? This changeless one sure seems to do alot of changing in your estimation. Show me in scripture where it says that GOD changed his mind about "TWO WIVES". The scripture reads: A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 1 Timothy 3:2 Lisa wants the scripture to read: A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of ONLY one wife, NOT 2 not 50, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; But that is the error of Gnostic Catholicism. It paves the road to the FORBIDDING to MARRY doctrine and places an ungodly burden upon many who would serve GOD in spirit and in truth. It forces men and women who were not designed for such a thing into fornication, divorce, homosexuality, deceit, and all manner of ungodliness. It is this setting at nought that results in the forbidding to marry that we already see so prevalent today, that even my own country embraces "same-sex" marriage to appease the lustful appetites of cheating spouses who were likewise forbidden and it is not of GOD. Only adders add to the Word. Lisa, are you saying that Abraham committed adultery when he married Hagar? Was Moses was an adulterer also? What does the HOLY BIBLE say. Just how you could lift up the FILTH of Herbert Armstrong's heretical work as a ONENESS BELIEVER is completely beyond me. Herbert despised Pentecost. The man was a complete infidel who vacilated throughout his ministry in hypocrisy and this became the source of your argument: a man who didn't even support his own filthy doctrine in spirit and in truth... A man who was NOT the husband of ONLY ONE WIFE... A man who continually held the truth in unrighteousness. Shame on you! Were you also his convert? His old secretary, perhaps? LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE TAUGHT THE WORLD TO BELIEVE ABOUT CHRISTIANITY! IS IT ANY WONDER OUR MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE LOST? BEHOLD HOW THEY HAVE BEEN LIED TO ABOUT THE TRUE ONENESS PENTECOSTAL FAITH: ZEITGEIST THEY THINK THIS IS CHRISTIANITY. IT IS NOT. IT IS GNOSTICISM AND IT HAS ROBBED US OF TRUE RELIGION OF 1600 YEARS AND THEY HAVE ONLY BEEN WARNING US OVER AND OVER AGAIN! WHAT A SHAME THAT WE HAVE NOT BOTH HEARD EACHOTHER's WARNINGS. WE DO NOT HELP THEM WITH OUR LIES ABOUT THE ONLY WISE GOD. WHY THEN, DO WE WONDER ABOUT THE WAY THINGS ARE WHEN SO MUCH PURITANICAL SELF-RIGHT PRIDE COURSES THROUGH OUR VEINS? 1600 YEARS OF LIES AND CONDITIONING TO KEEP US AWAY FROM THE REAL JESUS, THE ONLY WISE GOD! THE REAL ENEMY IS ROME and ROME IS AT HOME IN THE WHITEHOUSE. Perhaps at times in the Old Testament, the practice of polygamy was allowed, after SIN entered in to the world. Where a man died, having not yet produced an heir, his brother was obligated to marry the widow, and to designate the firstborn of that marriage as an heir to the dead brother. But all this was after SIN entered in and man was populating the earth. From the BEGINNING it was NOT so....
Distraction will get you nowhere. Polygamy is a sin. Polygamy was always a sin. Polygamy means that a woman can have many wives. Polygamy means a woman can have many husbands all living at the same time. Polygamy means that a man can be with many men. There are some that even say that Beastiality is a form of Polygamy so stop using wordly terminology to discredit what GOD has called TWO WIVES. Alot of things are "not so" as they were in the beginning. Jesus used those words to state to the Pharisees that in THE BEGINNING THERE WAS NO DIVORCE. I hate divorce. I hate putting away. I believe in marriage until death. I have neither put away, nor divorced. You can believe what you wish. What GOD HATH CALLED TWO WIVES LET NOT MAN PUT ASUNDER. GOD said it and we know that the scripture cannot be broken.
When Jesus came and died for SINS of mankind, he set the record straight for one male and one female again.
He sure did. One male may marry a multitude of wives in the LORD with His blessing upon it. One woman may marry only One Lord in her LORD while her husband yet lives. She would do well to call him lord. We see the proof of it in the Book of Revelation: A multitude of souls in the BRIDE of CHRIST, a plurality in a singularity. I am surely glad that JESUS didn't say there was only enough room for ONE LIVING SOUL in the BRIDE. The Bible says that the wages of sin is death. The Bible also tells us that there is no one that is righteous and that all of us have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God. He made the way for us with His work on the Cross. A new and living way....where our sins are put under the blood and we no longer have the vile practices of stoning people to death, concubines, and all manner of evil. No, instead we send our offspring to fight unjust wars to sacrifice their blood upon the alter of the Shaitan in the name of Terrorism and call it "Christian". We promote and legalise sodomy and lesbainism because we surely do not want what GOD calls marriage. We destroy families with unjust laws and uphold the wicked and evil doers as godly and righteous people. We sign contracts that bring CAESAR into our marriage bed so that we can renounce godly marriage to call it "POLYGAMY" and "Illegitimate". It is sheer and utter hypocrisy. Our churches are experiencing unprecedented rates of divorce and separation while the secular world watches on, shaking their heads and wondering "where is their GOD" as the temporal realm enjoys an even lower percentage of broken homes and families: The price of holding the truth in unrighteousness. AND now you want me to believe that because the Christ died on the cross for our sins that the CHANGELESS ONE changed HIS mind about what is moral and immoral; only say that what GOD has called "TWO WIVES" is a lie. My heart is very sad for you, Lisa. I pray that you repent. Matthew 19:8-9
He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife (not 14 wives), except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. More distraction and more PARTIAL TRUTH. As I stated previously in this post, JESUS spake on this wise concerning DIVORCEMENT: In the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you, whosoever shall put away his wife... oh, I see you added to the word of God again...(not 14 wives), except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. But Abijah waxed mighty, and married fourteen wives, and begat twenty and two sons, and sixteen daughters. Your little "correction" does not change the Word of God. The putting away of ANY wife by a husband is still the putting away of a (one) wife, regardless if a man has ONLY ONE wife or fourteen wives. Putting away without cause is of the Devil. Therefore what GOD has called two wives let not man (or woman) put assunder. GOD cannot lie. Mark 10 And he arose from thence, and cometh into the coasts of Judaea by the farther side of Jordan: and the people resort unto him again; and, as he was wont, he taught them again. And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter. And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery. REMEMBER THIS? NEO-FEMINISM We have had this dispute before Lisa, and you have not nearly persuaded me to believe your private, NEW AGE interpretation of Godly marriage yet. Abraham verily became ONE FLESH (that is Hebrew for "married", folks) with Hagar. Bless her soul! May the only Wise God have mercy upon her in judgment for by the sons of Ishmael did HE execute HIS judgment upon the arrogant sons of Jacob. May Hagar and Sarah and Mary embrace as sisters in the judgment and mercy of the MOST WISE and MOST MERCIFUL GOD! I long to see these noble mothers in the arms of my HOLY and BELOVED JESUS. I want to see these weapons turned into ploughshears and peace and goodwill restored to the Kingdom of GOD on this earth. Do you not know how that GOD used these women according to HIS purpose? Where is your compassion, sister? If I spoke to your shame you would not tolerate it. Your nostrils would flare and you would terminate my membership here as you have so many times before but I will say this: a good daughter of Hagar would do no such thing. Hagar OBEYED. Understand that you will never persuade me to believe contrary to the WORD OF GOD. Titus 1:6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. Yes, and this scripture answers to it: " For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God? " 1 Timothy 3:2A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Now do you say that I am NOT the husband of ONE WIFE? It is clear that those in Church leadership are to be monogamous (the 'husband of one wife' clause shows up in both statements of elder/deacon qualifications: 1 Tim 3.2 and Titus 1.6).....and they are EXAMPLES of how the REST OF THE MEN MUST LIVE! How do I know? Because God has said that He is no RESPECTOR OF PERSONS. Yes, we have been here before also. I do not confuse genders for persons as some do. I realize you seek gender equality and desire the things that pertain to men but this is not God's way, Lisa. This is the sort of thinking that fuels the neo-feminist agenda and same-sex marriage. Before GOD we are all equal as persons. God is no respector of persons and you are not God. Indeed men in leadership should be the HUSBAND of ONE WIFE, even as the APOSTLE PAUL, ABRAHAM, MOSES, GIDEON, and all the men of GOD were also the HUSBANDS of ONE WIFE. Romans 2:11
For there is no respect of persons with God. Now JT, I care about your soul or I would not have taken time to show you this very obvious truth. It is now up to you to get your life in order with God. I have done my part in expounding to you the way more clearly....It's up to you to either accept or reject the truth I have shown you. Whatever you do, I will still treat you kindly and still pray for you. If you feel the need to attack me, call me names, or hurl insults....that is your choice. I will still pray for you. The anger of the LORD hath divided them; he will no more regard them: they respected not the persons of the priests, they favoured not the elders. I feel much the same toward you, Lisa. I have devoted more time to your efforts than you have given me credit for, but I understand that you are not GOD so I will try to be more respectful of this fact. Afterall, you are only a woman. Should one of my wives ever choose to become a whore, I shall make an effort to inform you of it so that you can call yourself a prophetess to justify your insults and accusations. I can lead you to the living water but that is as far as I can take you. If you want to reject what the Word of GOD has called two wives and live in denial of GOD's own truth to exclusion of so many scriptures that support the truth I can only pray that one day you will get your life in order also. May God have mercy upon you and your house. JT |
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