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S.M.U.T = SATANIC MINISTRY UNDER TRINITY TAKE SPECIAL NOTE OF PARAGRAPH, JT AND BELOVED. - Anita Polygamy and the Bible Many today are in a state of confusion as to what the Bible teaches, does not teach, or is silent on pertaining to the practice of polygamy. Polygamy is simply defined as, "The practice or condition of having many or several spouses, especially wives, at one time" (Random House College Dictionary, pg. 1628). "Polygamy" is a general term that can and does embrace a number of specific forms of multiple spouses; such as, polyandry (one woman and two or more men) and polygyny (one man and two or more women). A number of American Indian tribes and nineteenth Century Mormons practiced sororal polygamy (one man marrying sisters). While polyandry is not totally absent in the Bible (Isaiah 4: 1 mentions women marrying a man), polygyny is the common reference (one man marrying women). Polygamy is not a mute or dead issue or one limited to a relatively few Mormon fundamentalists. In fact, some sociologists believe that we shall shortly observe a resurgence in polygamous practices. Peggy Fletcher Stack wrote an article titled "Globally, Polygamy Is Commonplace" from which I shall now quote: "Polygamy may be abhorrent to most Americans, but in the global community it is common, normal and accepted. ‘Although the percentage of men in the world who have more than one wife is relatively small, as many as a third of the world's population belongs to a community that allows it,�?says Israeli anthropologist Joseph Ginat. ‘There are many plural marriages in Africa, the Middle East and in Asia,�?said Ginat, professor of social and culture anthropology at the University of Haifa�?." (Salt Lake Tribune, September 20, 1998). There are prevailing mind-sets today that are preparing the way for the legal, moral, and social toleration and even approval of polygamy. Such should not be surprising in view of a forerunner movement, same sex marriage. "With the sweetly titled HBO series ‘Big Love,�?polygamy comes out of the closet. Under the headline ‘Polygamists, Unite!�?Newsweek informs us of ‘polygamy activists emerging in the wake of the gay-marriage movement.�?Says one evangelical Christian big lover: ‘Polygamy rights is the next civil-rights battle,�? one author writes. He continues, "Polygamy used to be stereotyped as the province of secretive Mormons, primitive Africans and profligate Arabs. With ‘Big Love�?it moves to suburbia as a mere alternative lifestyle. As Newsweek notes, these stirrings for the mainstreaming of polygamy (or, more accurately, polygyny) have their roots in the increasing legitimization of gay marriage." In fact, as I prepare this manuscript for publication, I have observed a rather large number already uniting in an effort to contend that polygamy is biblically acceptable today. Consider the following in defense of polygamy: "We believe that the idea of multiple sexual partners is in no way prohibited by the teachings of the Hebrew or Christian scriptures.
The ancient Hebrews, as portrayed in the Old Testament, clearly believed in multiple partnerships and this practice is nowhere condemned by God.
When the New Testament scriptures are viewed as a whole, taking into account the cultural context in which they were written, it is clear that neither Jesus nor the writers of the New Testament condemned such practice, although it appears that polygamy had, for non-religious reasons, substantially declined within Jewish culture by the time of Christ.
Despite this biblical evidence, the Christian church has persistently opposed polygamous relationships and has, at times, actively persecuted families which chose to practice this lifestyle. The church has also used twisted interpretations of various scriptures in defense of its opposition to this lifestyle." More are now aggressively teaching that the Bible sanctions polygamous practices today and some even say that polygamy is "God’s ideal state." If you consult Nave’s Topical Bible, you will find one section under "Polygamy" titled, "Authorized�? Samuel 12: 8." If God ever "authorized" polygamy, how could it have ever been immoral? Let us briefly consider the passage adduced to prove the "authorization" of polygamy. "7: And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul; 8: And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things" (2 Sam. 12). It is understood by some that the expression, "And I gave thee thy master’s…wives into thy bosom�? means that God was pleased with one man and multiple women. I agree that if there were not any other statement or teaching in the Bible, one might conclude the acceptance of the practice of multiple wives. However, could not the student also simply understand the statement to mean in general that God had given to David all that appertained to Saul and that the reference to Saul’s women was the ultimate proof, especially if we find sound evidence that God was not pleased with polygamy? (Saul appears to have had only one wife and one concubine, I Sam. 14: 15; I Sam. 3: 7.) There are indications that from early on, pagan nations freely practiced polygamy. Notwithstanding, we continue to read of men in the Bible who were manifestly monogamous (one wife only). It is evident that Adam, Noah, Job, Isaac, and Joseph (Jesus’step-father) to name some, were monogamous. After mentioning the reality of monogamy in a general milieu of pagan polygamy, I must also concede the existence of more than one wife among God’s people. Lemech, Abraham, Esau, Jacob, and Gideon all had more than one wife (Gen. 4: 19; Gen. 16; Gen. 26: 34, 28: 9; Gen. 29: 30; Judges 8: 30). (See addendum.) Even in circumstances of recorded polygamy or polygyny, we can read of domestic disturbance due to competitiveness and resentment among the women (cp. Gen. 29: 30-34, Deut. 21: 15-17, 2 Chroni. 11: 21). In fact, most of the unrest in the Middle East today that is having global effects can be traced back to polygamy and the resulting rivalry (Abraham, Sarai and Hagar, Gen. 16). An expressed prohibition against polygamy. Those who contend that the Bible never negatively treats polygamy are wrong. Consider the warning given to prospective and actual kings of Israel: "16: But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way. 17: Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold" (Deut. 17). Notice the three "shall nots," multiply horses, multiply wives, multiply silver and gold. Solomon is often sited as proof for the practice of polygamy being right, but Solomon was wrong in all three areas. Solomon had a vast number of horses; he had riches unparallel; and seven hundred wives (I Kgs. 4: 26; Eccl. 1-10; I Kgs. 11: 3). Hence, to use the example of Solomon and his seven hundred wives to argue for polygamy is an example of how simplistically a subject can be approached and dialectically presented. The ideal marriage, according to God. The very first marriage, Adam and Eve, in many ways serves as a prototype, if you will. Notice that God knew that it was not good that Adam be alone and God provided for Adam a "help meet" (counter part that was a complement to Adam, Gen. 2: 18). Observe how God did not simply provide another man, but for Adam God made woman, the "glory of the man" (Gen. 2: 18ff., I Cor. 11: 7ff.). Hence, same sex marriage is not part of God’s arrangement for the marriage bond (see Rom. 1: 22ff.). Moreover, appreciate the fact that when God instituted marriage, it was one man and one woman (Gen. 2). If polygamy is the "ideal," as some are teaching, why, then, did not God create Eve, Sue, Jane, etc. for Adam? Some of the most beautiful teaching relative to the intimacy and duration of marriage resides in Malachi 2: "14: Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the LORD hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant. 15: And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth." Notice how the practice of many wives just does not fit into the passage. However, how about all the references to polygamy in the Bible? Just because the Bible mentions a trait or act of an individual, even a godly person, does not necessarily mean that the Bible endorsed such. The mentioning of Noah becoming drunk and disgracing himself is mentioned, but certainly not condoned (Gen. 9: 20ff.). I submit that God was not pleased with polygamy, an aberrant from the monogamous marriage God put in place, but that he did two things: (1). God tolerated polygamy during the maturation of his people and (2) he sought to regulate the evil practice. We know that God intended for one man, one woman and that this relationship was to be for the duration (Matt. 19: 4ff., the only allowable cause for divorce is fornication). Yet, we also read of a divorce provision for a cause other than fornication (Deut. 24: 1-4). This divorce concession was not given for the pleasure of flippant husbands, but was actually for the protection of the women. Thus it was relative to polygamy. God put in place monogamous marriage, but man within a short time became dissatisfied with one woman (Gen. 4: 19). Hence, God then sought to regulate the polygamous practice (Ex. 21: 10). Notwithstanding, God was never pleased with polygamy or divorce for a cause other than fornication (cp. Mal. 3: 16). Polygamy is expressly denounced pertaining to the leaders of God’s people. "2: A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach," "6: If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly" (I Tim. 3; Tit. 1). The expression "husband of one wife" (andra mias gunaikos) was provided by the Holy Spirit and must be respected. The Holy Spirit could have worded this requirement a number of ways. This construction requires marriage (present marriage) but forbids polygamy. Thus in the case of the Hebrew leaders (the kings) and in the case of the rulers of God’s people today (cp. Heb. 13: 17), having more than one wife is expressly forbidden. Why would one think such would not also follow regarding those under these men? In closing, we must realize that emotionalism and popularity do not establish God’s norm. I am aware that one of the world’s largest religions (Islam) has in place in its teaching (Koran) that in certain circumstances, a man may have more than one wife (Mohamed had ten wives). Some believe that today there are up to sixty thousand Mormon polygamists in Utah. As seen, polygamy is practiced even legally in many places in one third of the world’s population and that there is a movement underway to legalize multiple wives in America. However, God’s teaching remains one man, one woman (Matt. 19: 4ff., I Cor. 7, Rom. 7: 3, 4, Eph. 5: 22ff.). "God no longer "winks at ignorance, but now commandeth all men every where to repent" (Acts 17: 30). (For more study on the subject of polygamy, visit "An Exchange on Polygamy"). Addendum: We can historically establish the existence of polygamy among the Hebrews from Lamech, six generations from Adam, to about the time of the Babylonian exile. From the time of the exile, history is silent regarding the presence of polygamy among the Jews. By the time of the New Testament, polygamy appears to have been the exception and monogamy the norm even among the Gentiles and Romans | Reply
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| | From:  †FàíthJoYnHÌm�?/FONT> (Original Message) | Sent: 8/6/2008 6:25 PM | The "Truth" about Marriage ACCORDING TO S.M.UT. The truth relative to marriage is rather clear. However, man has often blurred the truth by his doctrines. God is the author of marriage (a couple joined for life in a special spiritual and physical relationship). God said, "it is not good that the man should be alone�? (Gen. 2: 18). It is a common fact that man is a social being. His life is enhanced and increased by having a proper companion. God then said, "…I will make an help meet for him." The Hebrew word translated "help meet" suggests a counter-part. Some versions have the footnote, "helper comparable to him." God made woman for man. It has been remarked that God made Eve, not Steve for Adam. The woman was created for man! (Gen. 2: 18-22, 23). The apostle Paul later wrote, "Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man" (I Cor. 11: 9). "…Man is not of the woman," he further argues to illustrate man's headship, "but the woman of the man" (vs. 8). Man is in "the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man" (vs. 7). Since God made woman for man, she is ideally suited both emotionally, anatomically, and psychologically to meet the needs of man - all so called women's movements to the contrary notwithstanding. The exclusivity of marriage. "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother�?" God says regarding the priority of marriage (Gen. 2: 24). A son/parent relationship is wonderful and demanding, but the marriage relationship is more demanding! Marriage, as ordained by God, involves one man and one woman. Eve, not multiple women, was made for Adam (Gen. 2). "They twain (two, dm) shall be one flesh," Jesus later said (Matt. 19: 5). The play and emphasis is on the numerical "two" and "one." Marriage is monogamous and God was not pleased with polygamy, practiced subsequent to Genesis 2). What constitutes marriage which is joined by God. Not all marriages are joined by God. Many, even of my brethren, equate marriage and bond. However, in some cases, one can be married to one and bound to another (Rom. 7: 3). Marriage does not necessarily imply there is a bond, in other words. (please read the material on "Scriptural Divorcement" and "Remarriage" found in archives). Two eligible people must have the intent of the marriage commitment. The betrothment (what we loosely call "engagement") of the Hebrew scriptures was indicative of such an intent (Ex. 22: 16). Marriage among the Jews was prearranged by parents - such declared intent. The Bible speaks of God being "witness between thee and the wife of thy youth." Also, "…the wife of thy covenant" (Mal. 2: 14). One commentator wrote regarding Bible marriages: "The actual marriage seems to have been accompanied by certain solemn promises and blessings (The Pulpit Commentary, vol. 14, on Malachi 2: 14). The totality of the teaching of the Bible shows what we call the "exchanging of vows." I stress this facet of marriage to say there is a manifest difference between marriage and just living together in fornication. We are taught to obey civil laws when they do not collide with God's laws, as such (Rom. 13: 1-7, Acts 5: 29). As a rule, all counties, States, and municipalities have laws relative to marriage - issuance of marriage license, filing of license, etc. Such civil practice is good because it creates order, intent, and record. The purpose of marriage. The ideal marriage is both physical and spiritual. "…To avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and every woman have her own husband," the Bible says (I Cor. 7: 2). The conjugal aspects of marriage are clearly and unashamedly taught (I Cor. 7: 3-6, Heb. 13: 4). The belief and teaching that sexual intercourse is just for procreation is patently false and has resulted in many failed marriages. Marriage is also for the producing and education of children (Gen. 1: 28). Paul wrote of the woman, "notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety" (I Tim. 2: 15). Many are conversant with the physical considerations of marriage - the conjugal, children, etc. - but not enough are aware of the spiritual. The biblically ideal marriage involves an acknowledgment of God and his word at the beginning and throughout the marriage. Men and women entering marriage should be as compatible as possible. Moreover, spiritual compatibility should be a requisite. In short, both should be Christians (I Pet. 3: 7, see also Eph. 5: 22-33). Many conflicts and problems occur because neither or just one is a Christian (Acts 26: 28). The expression "one flesh" I am convinced refers to more than the sexual. While they remain two entities, they unite in purpose. The spiritual is also seen concerning the nurturing of children. Children are to be brought "up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord" (Eph. 6: 4). Children are also to "obey your parents in the Lord�? (vs. 1). Headship in marriage. All relationships must have structure in order to properly function, marriage is no exception. The truth stated in the Bible is the husband is the head, the wife is to be in subjection, and the children are to obey their parents in the Lord (Eph. 5: 22-6: 4). The too common American family is in direct opposition to God's teaching regarding marriage. Marriage is not a democracy with all ruling, including the children! Alas, many men lack leadership abilities. They are growing up in homes where biblical headship is not practiced - even members of the Lord's church. More and more preachers and elders (role models) do not rule their own houses (I Tim. 3: 4, 5, Tit. 1: 6). In the case of elders, some local churches have become mutually ruled! (See Hebrews 13: 17.) The longevity of marriage. God ordained marriage is manifestly permanent (Gen. 1, 2). In alluding to and reinstating the original marriage law, Jesus said: "…what therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder" (Matt. 19: 6). "For the woman which hath a husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth�?" Paul wrote (Rom. 7: 2). The only exception or contingency to the continuance of the marriage bond, other than death, is adultery. The innocent mate may elect to sever the marriage bond (his tie) based on the fornication of their mate (Matt. 5: 32, 19: 9). It is becoming more and more uncommon to witness forty and fifty wedding anniversaries. How sad. Beloved, God ordained marriage, when obeyed, will work and will result in one of the most fulfilling human relationships known to man. Such a marriage can also spiritually enhance both the husband and the wife and bestow on them blessings which can not otherwise by enjoyed. |
THE ABOVE COMPOSITION IS TOTAL S.M.U.T. THE SIGNTATURE OF SATAN IS WRITTEN ALL OVER IT. EVIDENTLY ANITA HAS CHOSEN TO WORSHIP BELIAL. | JT'S RESPONSE TO S.M.U.T. (Satanic Matriarchy Under Trinity) | | |
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| | | JT....you carry the spirit of a demon. | | Reply
| | | Anita... You carry the spirit of blasphemy. The Lord rebuke thee. | | Reply
| | | I'm not blaspheming anybody...certainly not God for I believe His words are true and He is faithful. However, you JT are obviously so angry....I can feel absolutely no love in you. Many folks have tried to befriend you and yet you get so angry with others because they do not believe the way you do. You are a human being, created in the image of God. I do not believe the way you do because I believe God's word says otherwise. But nevertheless, I do not judge you, nor do I dislike you for your belief and lifestyle. I am not any better than you and you are not any better than me, but I hold to God's word that I think more highly of others than myself. Blessings. | | Reply
| | | I am judging you. . . And I have found you greatly wanting in the truth of GOD. I have the authority in the LORD to judge you because you have come against me with the law, holding the truth of GOD in unrighteousness, even to bear false witness against me. You are blind to your own judgments of me as you continue to engage in the ignorance of your own willful volition. If I had the spirit of a demon in me you should have done with me what I did with you; but now I speak to Anita... May the Lord Jesus rebuke your blaspheming spirit. The spirit of Jezebel dwells in your heart and the heated lust of your self-right anger anger and jealousy testifies against you. You are full of rebellion and verily judge according to the flesh and not according to the Spirit. Not all appearances are outward and I am not nearly what I seem to you; therefore you do prejudge me according to your own twisted perception of me. Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment... Saith the Lord. What you confuse for love is certainly not in me; but I have already named your demon. Reflect on this wisdom, daughter of Eve... Why do you persecute me? Why are you still here? Do you honestly believe that my work here is simply to make friends? If it were only to make friends why would I bother to dialogue with you, seeing that you persecute me. You do not obey the word of GOD; but rather you ignore His instruction and your heart is filled with contempt for the truth! Have you yet learned what GOD calls adultery? Have you yet learned what GOD calls whoredom? Have you yet learned what GOD called two wives? Nay, but you judge according to the flesh to bring a railing accusation against me! Therefore I say unto thee, the Lord rebuke thee, thou foul and vile spirit! You cower from my wife as though you cannot endure truth. You tremble before her testimony and record. You are no lady. You are not even woman enough to speak to my wife woman-to-woman, as a true Christian sister would if she truly thought her sister was in danger. But you are no Christian and my wife is not in danger; rather your rebellious Jezebel spirit ignores the proper order of holiness unto GOD; even to the extent that you think you have the authority to correct me!... You deign to pontificate against me as though you had authority from on High when all you do is continually lie and hold the truth in unrighteousness. Now you will see how I deal with your kind. Let the Lord be a witness between me and thee. You shall surely see that you are not worthy to judge me. Go talk to the women. Learn instruction from them. You are not qualified to even teach women and I would not trust you with children either. If you have an husband I truly feel sorry for him. I have said all I need to say to you. Talk to my wife if you wish to learn more. 1 Corinthians 2 1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. 2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. 3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. 4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: 5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. 6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. *** P.S. MANAGEMENT RESERVES THE RIGHT TO MOVE S.M.U.T. posts onto the ** SMUT PILE ** . May JESUS, the only wise GOD, bless you in the knowledge of FULL BIBLE TRUTH. BEWARE OF SMUT. | | |
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You sure about that? Try reading your own post as if it belonged to someone else. Who's the angry, bitter, hateful one now? You seem to forget you are on our home ground. All you were asked to do was answer a few of my own questions. Not unreasonable. Yet you choose to ignore them instead, and make these baseless accusations against my husband. No respectable woman would put up with such a thing, and I won't. I don't care if you "have no love" for my husband, you will show respect to us on our board or you will leave. |
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Look at your keyboard, on the far left. There's a button there that has the letters C-A-P-S L-O-C-K. Press it. I read or have read to me every post that my husband makes, and I have helped him write/critiqued his writing quite often. As I have said quite often, you, the reader, hear what you want to hear. You obviously are in denial of your own anger issues. Take a class, most cities offer help for that. My husband has never raised a hand to me or any other woman he has ever known, even if they have tried to physically assault him themselves in their own uncontrollable anger. I agitate and disagree with my husband lots, and we get along just fine. You have failed to prove there is any adultery here. The Holy Spirit decides who has the Holy Spirit, not you. You are arrogant. You are angry. You are bitter. You are hateful. You need the Holy Spirit. You are telling on yourself. And just so you know, you addressed JT as my husband. Freudian slip, perhaps? |
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Even you do not see your own contradiction. You call me an adulterer, but still agree that I am JT's wife. It can't be both, Anita. If you don't think that "two wives" is of God, then what would you call it? Two what? |
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 Anita, my beloved Hope says that communicating with you is a complete waste of time. (The wife of my youth told me that all of this is a waste of time; but she only uses the pc for her e-mail and refuses to partake in forums. I have long given up the effort to urge her and persuade her to share her views.) Hope says that you don't even read my material and that all efforts to communicate with you are futile because you only want to hear your own words and ignore everyone elses. This is a common communication problem, Anita. There are places where you can get help for this. (I don't mean that disrespectfully. There really are places that can help you improve your communication skills. Some of them are even Bible-based.) I was really hoping that you read my work peradventure you might benefit from the knowledge, but it's likely that she is right. I can't see how it could be otherwise and this brings sadness to my heart. All you do is criticize and persecute. When I answer your questions you behave as though I never reply to any of them; but now that I see that you have been deleting your lies and disinformation, I like to think there is still some hope for you. I have a few questions for you. Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? Are you trinitarian or Oneness? Do you believe JESUS is GOD, very GOD? Are you in an abusive relationship where your husband beats you? Please answer the questions. Now I will address your posts seeing that you finally cooperated with me and answered my wife... Well, kinda sorta.  Reply
| | | ....I assume all three of you presented yourselves before God and the state-sanctioned officials to obtain a "marriage" license....right? A: I and my wives are living in Canada, the True North, Strong and Free. We need no "state" sanctioning here. In Canada Commonlaw marriage is both sanctioned and recognized by the crown and her majesty, the Queen. (smart woman) This is partly the reason why there are so few "illigitmate" children in Canada. Men don't get away with playing the dog so easily this way and women don't get away with playing the whore. All are held in full responsibility to their progeny. I think this is a good law. I think we should bring back those "shot-gun" weddings too! If you are not legally wed to this man, then you are just shacking up and living in sin. Let me see if I get this right. . . Are you saying that all marriages prior to the introduction of the government issued marriage license are all just shacking up and living in sin? OH MY!! A civil writ of license was only issued in USA around the early 1920's! So I guess you're saying that everyone in USA who married prior to that time are ALL going to roast in hell. Isn't this a little harsh?
If JT is NOT legally married to either one of you, then all three of you are shacking up and living in sin....fornication to be exact. Honey, you need to learn to call it what JESUS called it. JESUS called it ONE FLESH. This is marriage. Fornication is sexual imorality: Pornography, prostitution, whoredom, homosexuality, beastiality, buggery, sodomy, adultery etc. Spiritually speaking, it's all WHOREDOM; but what GOD called ONE FLESH let not man (or woman) put asunder. Nonetheless, for your information, I signed a contract of civil marriage with the wife of my youth, endorsed by the government of my Province. Canada is using it now for toilet paper along with the rest of all those contracts signed by well-intentioned but nonetheless ignorant people. Neither me, nor my wives consider the piece of paper we signed valid because it is contrary to the WORD of GOD. All paper licensing of marriage should be abolished because it is contrary to GOD's WORD. Rings and vows and paper writ do not a marriage make. | | Reply
| | | From: †FàíthJoYnHÌm�?/FONT> | Sent: 8/8/2008 2:11 PM | | BTW.....God's word says that we are to obey all laws of the governor....which means that all state, local and federal laws are to be obeyed....so if the state says you have to obtain a marriage license to wed....then you have to get one in order to be legally bound....but according to you and JT....you are bound in "spirit"....welll that just don't cut it lady. Chapter and verse please. I would like to read in the scripture where it says that we are to obey " ALL LAWS OF THE GOVERNER" (eventhough my Province has no "governer" or "state" per se). Interestingly enough, Canada does not say that anyone must have a marriage license to wed. I'm really beginning to love CANADA more and more each day. I hope they "get with the program" and abolish the whole idea of a marriage license. I disagree with your interpretation and so does the HOLY BIBLE. I know that many politicians, corrupt magistrates, lawyers, and lying pastors in the employ of corrupt government want us to believe this to be the case; but the scripture says nothing of the sort. Every time a man and a woman unite in the flesh they become ONE FLESH. Now THAT is scriptural and I rejoice in the knowledge that my Country acknowledges THAT, even calling it "Equivalency to Marriage" on my TAX FORMS. I'm really sorry that Hope doesn't want to talk to you anymore. She was so eager to dialog with you earlier; perhaps she'll change her mind if you are nice to her. (You know how women can be.) Would you like to know what "cuts it"? What literally cuts it for me and my two wives, is the WORD of GOD: For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. (Hebrews 4:12-13 AKJV). 
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Greenwood? You know an Edward in Greenwood? I don't even know where that is. Do you know where that is, Zephyr? We don't live in any Greenwood, although there are plenty of green woods around here. |
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Good to see that you had a change of heart, dear. Suffer the poor woman. Remember that we were once the same way. I've been doing some browsing on this place Anita calls "Greenwood". It looks very nice. Who knows, I might even visit the place some day. I have always loved the Kootenays. |
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