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From: MSN NicknameTimothyLouis  in response to Message 10Sent: 2/27/2008 4:15 PM
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Hello,

Thanks for writing.

Lot's of scripture which is great. I do find a couple of assumptions on
your part in the last paragraph. The scripture is plain, but does not
necessarily go as far as you do in your summation.

You might find this interesting concerning Galatians 3.

http://www.gospelminutes.org/contra.php

A couple of years ago I contacted Dr. Priest. He was not only our math
teacher, but counselor and landlord! He made one correction, but said
that logically all was correct.

I do have a different take on Ephesians 2 than most. I find that the
chapter has been misused by most. It is in actuality a fulfillment of
several old testament prophecies. The language is quite interesting.

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Now back to today.


One has always been able to align themselves to God. One can not become a Levite or Judahite other than through birth. One should keep that in mind in scripture in relation to inheritance as well. Too many people are always trying to steal Israel's inheritance.

Ever read the 1840 Book of Jasher? It is not canonized, but a very interesting read. It is available on line free. There is a link to it at this address.

http://www.gospelminutes.org/p-jasher.php

By the way, if you read Jasher you will get a different take on Moses and the Cushite woman. Jasher is a fascinating read. I enjoyed it and wonder what all the fuss is about. I know it is not canonized, but what other book do we have today that is twice mentioned in scripture? That should give us some desire to at least read it.

You know a lot of people try to say that in the old testament God dealt with some people they mistakenly call Jews. Then he gave them up and dealt with Gentiles in the new testament. This makes God a promise breaker and lier. Part of the problem is a misunderstanding with terms. I think you understand this. The term Gentile (ethnos) does not mean non-Jew and at least 6 or 7 times in scripture refers to Judahites or at least Judeans. Context is everything.

Here is a book online that I found that I highly endorse concerning the terms Jew and Gentile. I did not write it, but I wish I had. :-)

http://www.missiontoisrael.org/mystery-of-gentiles/index.php?print=1

I am not a debater. I enjoy chatting, sharing and learning. It is one problem I have when dealing with people who write me concerning things like instrumental music for instance. I have a church of Christ background and they teach the use of an instrument as sin. I understand that God does not change and can not change his morals. If it was a sin the day Adam was placed in the garden it is a sin today. If it is a sin today then it was a sin that same day. God does not change. God commanded the use of an instrument in the period of the old scriptures and thus it can not be sin today. God does not change and to change God's morals changes God into a different god. Expand that to things beyond instrumental music and you get my point and I am glad that you understand this as well. Guess I am venting! :-)

Tim





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> I'm glad to read that at least you got the information, Timothy.
>
> I believe my address is correct however it could be that my
> security systems need to be reconfigured. Minor details at the
> most. I agree that Racial discrimination is unscriptural and I
> agree that discrimination can be a very good thing. I try not to
> advocate anything that is unscriptural but I will not say that it
> hasn't happened before and I don't pretend to don a halo. I'm not
> there yet. Anyone who says that they don't discriminate at all
> speaks falsely. We all do, and for good reason, I should hope.
>
> I strongly discriminate against television. I don't even own one.
>
> GOD discriminated against the enemies of Israel for a very good
> reason too. Yet it is evident that _ALL_ the enemies of Israel
> were welcome to repent and join Israel. They did not have to
> necessarily become Jews to be part of Israel either although it
> seems that this is another popular strong hold in some circles.
> Judah was only one of the twelve tribes of Israel. Jews were
> strictly from the house of Judah.
>
> Of course, since the initiation into the tribes of Israel was no
> small matter, the process would have been exercised strictly
> according to the OLD TESTAMENT ordinances of the LEVITE
> PRIESTHOOD; so joining Israel wouldn't be easy and they certainly
> wouldn't be allowed to join the House of Levi under any
> circumstances. It was common in that day to take the KINGDOM by
> force. That is why the sons of JACOB dealt treacherously with a
> certain King with respect to their sister, Dinah...They should
> have honored the covenant of the LORD but they dealt treacherously
> with that people because they were JEALOUS over their LORD. ISRAEL
> was the cause of their own demise. Alas, this made it possible
> for* Gentiles *and other *goyim *to become* Jews *directly to GOD,
> without the assistance of the* LEVITE PRIESTHOOD*. These *LEVITES*
> (oh yes, they are still alive today) don't like to be reminded of
> the fact that the MESSIAH has come and they also don't like to be
> reminded that *SALVATION IS OF THE JEWS.* Yet they call themselves
> Jews, and are not because they rejected the KING for another false
> messiah.That is why today there are still many who refute the*
> APOSTLE PAUL's *teachings because they still secretly desire the
> preeminence. They are going to be in for a big surprise.
>
> Yes, we both agree that adulteration is a mixing; however when we
> use this terminology it is important to maintain the framework of
> the general context. In this respect we refer to a very general
> context, not excluding substantial adulteration in the flesh.
> Where does the buck stop? Shall we bring back dietary laws also?
> (Some believe that we should.) We would be commiting adultery
> every time we ate food with preservatives or consume anything that
> would change our biochemistry. I have mixed feelings about
> chemically bio-engineering our genetics to permanently alter them.
> Isn't this a little too close to playing GOD? After all, who forms
> us in our mother's womb? In this general sense of the word,
> "adultery", can just as easily refer to a woman eating
> preservatives while pregnant, is committing adultery while she is
> pregnant. I wouldn't stone her for it, but I might grant her
> husband a word of caution.
>
> The WORD says, "What therefore GOD has put together, let not man
> put asunder." How far do we take this? I verily believe GOD has
> often put together certain people of different cultures, even
> mixed cultures and diverse cultural extraction, to form someone
> that HE wanted to be born. In fact, it was for this reason (and
> others) that the assembly of the *FIRST UNITED PENTECOSTAL CHURCH*
> rejected me and the wife of my youth, the Pastor there even
> cursing me at the altar, declaring in a loud voice for all to
> hear, "He will never know you, Lord!" Frankly, I feel, this is
> racial prejudice, but we kept on attending for some time despite
> the pastor's objections. (I was legally married to only one wife
> at that time and both our children were our own.) Of course, this
> sort of thinking promotes the belief that "other races" can get
> saved too, just as long as they marry their own kind. They do err
> not knowing the scriptures.
>
> I am predominantly of a caucasian "racial" and ethnic origin and
> the wife of my youth is of *Dene *indigineous extraction. My wives
> are beautiful women. I suspect that the *FUPC* would have more
> easily accepted my *new bride, *whose skin is so "white" (melanin
> defficient) that she scares me some times. I don't think she can
> tan and I wonder if she might suffer from some form of albinoism
> despite her dark hair and beautiful green eyes. She brings forth
> the definition of "lilly white" in a way that I never properly
> understood. I'm more sanguine (a euphamism for pink) one might
> say. I can both tan and burn. *lol *
>
> I know FUPC would probably not even let me past their doors with
> *_BOTH_* of my wives, but had my beloved Hope been the wife of my
> youth before I lawfully married a second time, I know that this
> would not have been a big issue. Oh no, they would found something
> else like... hmmm... */refusing to comply with laws that are
> contrary to the Word of GOD./* That's always a good one.
>
> You see, there are all sorts in the human spieces!* lol *I've
> heard that there are *'Eskimos'* living in the tropics now who
> have never seen the Arctic. Apparently they have completely
> different customs from any of those who still live in the Arctic.
> Sometimes I wonder how far this melanin pigment propensity
> connection to social behaviours actually carries any credibility.
> All variations will have propensities and all variations have
> propensities that are constantly changing... This is very
> important to understand because this is where the *crunch about
> "mixing"* comes into play... The matter is more cultural and
> spiritual than it is about "race". Moses did well to marry that
> Ethopian. That is what GOD wanted.
>
> It's an old argument: nuture vs. nature.
>
> *"It is rare to find someone else who understands that it takes a
> married woman to have adultery. The marital state of the man is
> not important. *More after the email works..." Tim
>
> *I still have much to learn, Tim, but I know that if it is written
> in the volume of the book, then it is true. What GOD called sin in
> the OT TIMES is still sin in the NT times. GOD's moral law has
> NEVER changed. GOD is not a flake. JESUS does not change HIS mind
> like a woman vacilating in the midst of her indecision. JESUS did
> not want the 12 to mix because He had plans for this people, to
> keep them HOLY. JESUS was not in the least concerned about genetic
> material mixing (HE MADE IT) SO MUCH as HE was concerned about
> _SPIRITUAL ADULTERATION_ from cultures that would continually
> worship other gods! JESUS did not reject the repentant sinner in
> OT times either; but if you wanted to join HIM back in that day,
> you also whould have had to join ISRAEL. The ZIONISTS are still
> trying to make a play off that, eventhough the MESSIAH is risen.*
>
> *PRAISE GOD! We now look to a New Jerusalem not made with human
> hands nor inherited by flesh and blood, but by every word that
> proceeds from the mouth of GOD. Therefore the laws of the
> commandments contained in the ordinances of the LEVITES are
> fulfilled in CHRIST, the KING of SALEM, the HIGH PRIEST and KING
> of the order of MELCHIZEDEK. This is what the LEVITES
> (ZIONISTS) despise. I believe the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH is also
> about to be devoured by ten, very hungry, and very angy kings
> because the PRIESTHOOD failed; and the Son of Perdition is about
> to be revealed. **Soon, and very soon, there will be a totally NEW
> PRIESTHOOD. (see Revelation 21) Our LORD will be giving us a NEW
> NAME and we will also know HIS NEW NAME. The people of GOD will be
> found in the NEW BRIDE, NEW JERUSALEM, a multitude too great for
> any man to count.*
>
> *The Mormons think they already have this, but they're missing one
> essential ingredient: HIS NAME IS JESUS.*
>
> *GOD BLESS YOU*
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