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From: MSN NicknameJacobs_TroubleSent: 7/5/2007 4:12 AM
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From: MSN NicknamerighteousdartSent: 2/22/2008 11:28 PM
 
StRadical
 
I'll be honest. I didn't even know that you made any reference to "ONE FLESH" per se, but it just goes to prove that we are on the same page. What you say about the sixties is so true. In the sixties they had to learn that there are consequences for loving corruption and confusion as much as there consequences for loving correctly.
 
From a scientific standpoint, adulteration is also a process that renders a substance "impure". A chemist will regularly adulterate various substances in a laboratory setting to observe and learn what the outcome, product, or consequence, of that adulteration will be. The "love experiments" of the sixties also produced many results that were not conducive to a healthy society. Many of these experiments continue in corruption even today.
 
I think it stands to reason why the Lord God told His people, "Thou shalt not commit adultery." Geneticists and other scientists are doing this on a daily basis without even realizing it: Adulterating our genetic material with other material. They are interested in what the consequences will produce; hence, stem cell research.
 
As for the secular government writ commonly called the "marriage license", few people understand that this was also based on an experiment in Louisiana after the slaves were freed. At that time many "concerned citizens" desired to keep track of the affairs of their former slaves. They were very concerned about something called miscegenation, a form of what many racist individuals considered to be "adultery". As a result of this great concern for inter-racial marriage they invented a new law that required all "mixed-marriages" to apply for a marriage license. Prior to this, there was no secular marriage license in all of the U.S.A. Neither did the churches of GOD have any such custom. (All of this can be verified in Black's Law Dictionary.)
 
The custom of paying the State government for permission to marry worked out so well for the State of Louisiana, that other states quickly followed suit. In 1923 the Uniform Marriage and Marriage License Act was established by the Federal government. In 1929 the name of this act was changed to the Uniform Marriage and Divorce Act.Under this act it became mandatory for all residents in the U.S.A to register their intentions to marry (if they had such intention) with a State endorsed marriage license, regardless of race, creed, or colour; but in the beginning it was not so.
 
What I find most interesting concerning the matter of licensing marriages is that the incidence of legal divorcement in the U.S.A., after the establishment of this Act in 1923, has increased over 600% by ratio, with respect to prior divorcement records (which have a much earlier history). This should be ample proof that rings and vows and paper writ do not a marriage make. It begs to be stated again, that in the beginning it was not so?
 
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From: MSN NicknameTimothyLouisSent: 2/24/2008 12:49 AM
I noticed you used the term racist. What does the term mean to you and what do you think it means to most others if your view is different?

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StRadical
 
I'll be honest. I didn't even know that you made any reference to "ONE FLESH" per se, but it just goes to prove that we are on the same page. What you say about the sixties is so true. In the sixties they had to learn that there are consequences for loving corruption and confusion as much as there consequences for loving correctly.
 
From a scientific standpoint, adulteration is also a process that renders a substance "impure". A chemist will regularly adulterate various substances in a laboratory setting to observe and learn what the outcome, product, or consequence, of that adulteration will be. The "love experiments" of the sixties also produced many results that were not conducive to a healthy society. Many of these experiments continue in corruption even today.
 
I think it stands to reason why the Lord God told His people, "Thou shalt not commit adultery." Geneticists and other scientists are doing this on a daily basis without even realizing it: Adulterating our genetic material with other material. They are interested in what the consequences will produce; hence, stem cell research.
 
As for the secular government writ commonly called the "marriage license", few people understand that this was also based on an experiment in Louisiana after the slaves were freed. At that time many "concerned citizens" desired to keep track of the affairs of their former slaves. They were very concerned about something called miscegenation, a form of what many racist individuals considered to be "adultery". As a result of this great concern for inter-racial marriage they invented a new law that required all "mixed-marriages" to apply for a marriage license. Prior to this, there was no secular marriage license in all of the U.S.A. Neither did the churches of GOD have any such custom. (All of this can be verified in Black's Law Dictionary.)
 
The custom of paying the State government for permission to marry worked out so well for the State of Louisiana, that other states quickly followed suit. In 1923 the Uniform Marriage and Marriage License Act was established by the Federal government. In 1929 the name of this act was changed to the Uniform Marriage and Divorce Act.Under this act it became mandatory for all residents in the U.S.A to register their intentions to marry (if they had such intention) with a State endorsed marriage license, regardless of race, creed, or colour; but in the beginning it was not so.
 
What I find most interesting concerning the matter of licensing marriages is that the incidence of legal divorcement in the U.S.A., after the establishment of this Act in 1923, has increased over 600% by ratio, with respect to prior divorcement records (which have a much earlier history). This should be ample proof that rings and vows and paper writ do not a marriage make. It begs to be stated again, that in the beginning it was not so?
 
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From: MSN NicknamerighteousdartSent: 2/24/2008 3:16 AM
Hello, TimothyLouis
 
I would imagine that my view of anything will be different from at least one other individual's view of the same. The word "racist" is not found in the Holy Bible. It is a modern term, just like the word "polygamy". Since there is no scripture to define what these and other words mean, they are generally "up for grabs" so-to-speak at the hands of social engineers and other linguistic revisionists. I will assume that you are also AMERICAN (like me) so I offer you the American Heritage Dictionary definition of the word:
 
American Heritage Dictionary
rac·ism       (rā'sĭz'əm)  Pronunciation Key 
n.  
  1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
  2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.


rac'ist adj. & n.


From this information it should be suffice to ascertain that a racist is a person who subscribes to this prejudicial belief system, exercising discrimination on the basis of race. When the State of Louisiana first made the marriage license (government permission to marry) mandatory, it was only mandatory for those who practiced miscegenation, or "mixed-marriage". As long as both individuals who married were of the "same race" they did not need to ask the government for permission to marry. Those who were of different racial origins were required to apply.

see: BEFORE YOU SIGN  

These people were discriminated against on the basis of their race. "Same race" marriages required no marriage license (or permission to marry) at that time. Later however, in 1923, Uniform Marriage and Marriage License Act was put into effect, requiring people to apply for a marriage license (permission to marry) from the State government. However there were still some States in the west that did not endorse the State government issued marriage license. It is my understanding that by 1929, the Uniform Marriage and Divorce Act was established, requiring all U.S. citizens to marry by means of Civil Writ, regardless of their alleged "racial purity".

"Racial purity" was a very serious concern for many people of the U.S.A. at that time and unbeknownst to many today, Adolf Hitler's views with respect to racial purity (and many other views of his) were warmly received by a great majority of Statists at that time. Swastikas were boldly paraded in the streets alongside US flags while crowds of US citizens cheered, prior to the second world war. I found footage of this on the internet but it is also historical fact.

The reason for my generous usage of quotation marks when I use such terminology as "racial purity" and "mixed-marriage" is because personally, I believe there is only one human race comprising several variations of the same race. I realize this belief is not always popular among some; but science has already proven that all human beings are indeed the same spieces, regardless of what the neo-nazis would tell us.

I have an improved version of the original manuscript that you copied, here:

http://www.yourchristianspace.com/blog/view/id_12170

In the sixties people still had to learn that there are consequences for loving corruption and confusion as much as there are consequences for loving correctly. As for experimentation, from a scientific standpoint, we learn that adulteration is a process that renders a particular substance "impure". For example: A chemist, in a laboratory setting, will regularly adulterate various substances to learn through observation what the conclusive outcome, product, or consequence, of that specific adulteration will be. The "love experiments" of the sixties also produced many results that were not conducive to the establishment of a healthy society. Many of these experiments continue in corruption even today. Social engineering is an ancient art. After all, someone must take the reigns of authority to help prevent Society from falling into a state of complete chaos. They won't do it without Jesus.
I think it stands to reason why the Lord God told His people, "Thou shalt not commit adultery." Interestingly, Geneticists, Biologists, and other scientists, are still doing this today, on a daily basis, sometimes without realizing what they are really doing: Adulterating and frequently manipulating our very own genetic material with other material, and consequently rendering it corrupt. Researchers are interested in what the consequences will produce; hence, stem cell research. All the data from most of these various medical centers available today is carefully recorded and deciphered by researchers who record the results. Human experimentation has not ceased by any stretch of the imagination as science continues to work on the challenge of bio-engineering.
As for the matter of the secular government writ, commonly called the "marriage license", few people understand that this was also based on a genetic experiment in Louisiana shortly after the slaves were freed. At that time many "concerned citizens" desired to keep track of the affairs of their former slaves. Many of the southern States in the early 1920's were very concerned about something called miscegenation, a bio-genetic form of what racist (race oriented) individuals considered to be "adultery". As a result of this great concern for inter-racial marriage they invented a new law that required all "mixed-marriages" to apply for a marriage license. Races of same "colour" were not required to apply. If permission was granted to the inter-racial couple they could 'legally marry'. Prior to this, there was no secular marriage license in all of the U.S.A. Neither did the churches of GOD have any such custom. (All of this can be verified in Black's Law Dictionary.)
The custom of paying the State government for permission to marry worked out so well for the State of Louisiana, that other states (and nations) in AMERICA quickly followed suit. In 1923 the Uniform Marriage and Marriage License Act was established by the Federal government of the United States of America. In 1929 the name of this act was changed to the Uniform Marriage and Divorce Act. Under this act it became mandatory for all those residents in the U.S.A. to register their intentions to marry (if they had such intention) with a State endorsed marriage license, regardless of race, creed, or colour; but in the beginning it was not so. What I find most interesting concerning the matter of licensing marriages by means of a secular writ, is that the incidence of legal divorcement in the U.S.A., after the establishment of this LEGAL ACT in 1923, has increased over 600% by ratio, with respect to prior divorcement records (which have a much earlier legal history). This should be ample proof that rings and vows and paper writ do not a marriage make. It bears repeating that in the beginning it was not so?
Blessings
JT

 

 

 

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From: MSN NicknameJacobs_TroubleSent: 2/24/2008 4:37 AM
I killed the leaderboard because they killed my picture again. lol
 
:::sigh::: I suppose it was for my "protection".
 
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From: MSN NicknameTimothyLouisSent: 2/24/2008 4:40 AM
Hello JT,

Well I was curious. People use that term and lump people into it when they do not belong there.

For instance I do believe that race accounts for differences in human character and ability. That is a matter of fact, although the books that show it are not politically correct these days and so are not promoted and may no longer be available. I do not believe that one race is superior over another. God made the races and said they were good. I suppose many would lump God in the racist crowd. Whether one believes that he made them or caused them he is responsible for their existence!

Now I would like to show you something I discovered about ten years ago. It is definitely one of those times that you just have to let the Bible speak for itself. I was definitely caught off-guard when I discovered this. Have you ever done a Bible search for the words "mixed" or "mingled"?

http://www.christianpoly.org/p-mixed.php

Well it sure surprised me. Talk about being outside todays Politically Correct comfort zone. Is it possible for people to admit that there are differences given by God and just give him the glory? There is more.

Tim



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Hello, TimothyLouis
 
I would imagine that my view of anything will be different from at least one other individual's view of the same. The word "racist" is not found in the Holy Bible. It is a modern term, just like the word "polygamy". Since there is no scripture to define what these and other words mean, they are generally "up for grabs" so-to-speak at the hands of social engineers and other linguistic revisionists. I will assume that you are also AMERICAN (like me) so I offer you the American Heritage Dictionary definition of the word:
 
American Heritage Dictionary
rac·ism       (ra'siz'?m)  Pronunciation Key 
n.  
  1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
  2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.


rac'ist adj. & n.


From this information it should be suffice to ascertain that a racist is a person who subscribes to this prejudicial belief system, exercising discrimination on the basis of race. When the State of Louisiana first made the marriage license (government permission to marry) mandatory, it was only mandatory for those who practiced miscegenation, or "mixed-marriage". As long as both individuals who married were of the "same race" they did not need to ask the government for permission to marry. Those who were of different racial origins were required to apply.

see: BEFORE YOU SIGN  

These people were discriminated against on the basis of their race. "Same race" marriages required no marriage license (or permission to marry) at that time. Later however, in 1923, Uniform Marriage and Marriage License Act was put into effect, requiring people to apply for a marriage license (permission to marry) from the State government. However there were still some States in the west that did not endorse the State government issued marriage license. It is my understanding that by 1929, the Uniform Marriage and Divorce Act was established, requiring all U.S. citizens to marry by means of Civil Writ, regardless of their alleged "racial purity".

"Racial purity" was a very serious concern for many people of the U.S.A. at that time and unbeknownst to many today, Adolf Hitler's views with respect to racial purity (and many other views of his) were warmly received by a great majority of Statists at that time. Swastikas were boldly paraded in the streets alongside US flags while crowds of US citizens cheered, prior to the second world war. I found footage of this on the internet but it is also historical fact.

The reason for my generous usage of quotation marks when I use such terminology as "racial purity" and "mixed-marriage" is because personally, I believe there is only one human race comprising several variations of the same race. I realize this belief is not always popular among some; but science has already proven that all human beings are indeed the same spieces, regardless of what the neo-nazis would tell us.

I have an improved version of the original manuscript that you copied, here:

http://www.yourchristianspace.com/blog/view/id_12170

In the sixties people still had to learn that there are consequences for loving corruption and confusion as much as there are consequences for loving correctly. As for experimentation, from a scientific standpoint, we learn that adulteration is a process that renders a particular substance "impure". For example: A chemist, in a laboratory setting, will regularly adulterate various substances to learn through observation what the conclusive outcome, product, or consequence, of that specific adulteration will be. The "love experiments" of the sixties also produced many results that were not conducive to the establishment of a healthy society. Many of these experiments continue in corruption even today. Social engineering is an ancient art. After all, someone must take the reigns of authority to help prevent Society from falling into a state of complete chaos. They won't do it without Jesus.
I think it stands to reason why the Lord God told His people, "Thou shalt not commit adultery." Interestingly, Geneticists, Biologists, and other scientists, are still doing this today, on a daily basis, sometimes without realizing what they are really doing: Adulterating and frequently manipulating our very own genetic material with other material, and consequently rendering it corrupt. Researchers are interested in what the consequences will produce; hence, stem cell research. All the data from most of these various medical centers available today is carefully recorded and deciphered by researchers who record the results. Human experimentation has not ceased by any stretch of the imagination as science continues to work on the challenge of bio-engineering.
As for the matter of the secular government writ, commonly called the "marriage license", few people understand that this was also based on a genetic experiment in Louisiana shortly after the slaves were freed. At that time many "concerned citizens" desired to keep track of the affairs of their former slaves. Many of the southern States in the early 1920's were very concerned about something called miscegenation, a bio-genetic form of what racist (race oriented) individuals considered to be "adultery". As a result of this great concern for inter-racial marriage they invented a new law that required all "mixed-marriages" to apply for a marriage license. Races of same "colour" were not required to apply. If permission was granted to the inter-racial couple they could 'legally marry'. Prior to this, there was no secular marriage license in all of the U.S.A. Neither did the churches of GOD have any such custom. (All of this can be verified in Black's Law Dictionary.)
The custom of paying the State government for permission to marry worked out so well for the State of Louisiana, that other states (and nations) in AMERICA quickly followed suit. In 1923 the Uniform Marriage and Marriage License Act was established by the Federal government of the United States of America. In 1929 the name of this act was changed to the Uniform Marriage and Divorce Act. Under this act it became mandatory for all those residents in the U.S.A. to register their intentions to marry (if they had such intention) with a State endorsed marriage license, regardless of race, creed, or colour; but in the beginning it was not so. What I find most interesting concerning the matter of licensing marriages by means of a secular writ, is that the incidence of legal divorcement in the U.S.A., after the establishment of this LEGAL ACT in 1923, has increased over 600% by ratio, with respect to prior divorcement records (which have a much earlier legal history). This should be ample proof that rings and vows and paper writ do not a marriage make. It bears repeating that in the beginning it was not so?
Blessings
JT

 

 

 

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From: MSN NicknameJacobs_TroubleSent: 2/24/2008 8:51 PM
Praise the Lord, Timothy
 
I am familiar with the link you shared and sent you some scripture on it from another sign in. Racial discrimination is another fleshly strong hold that needs to come down completely in the name of JESUS. Like the word "polygamy", the word "racism" has been so corrupted and the definition so blurred, that the word hardly has any integrity left to speak of, the meaning is rendered corrupt, and the linguistic revisionists have once again, left us with a completely adulterated mess on our hands concerning this word. It is not the word "racism" itself, that is so much at a disadvantage as the word "race" hence rendering such terminology arbitrary. There is no pure race on this planet.
 
Scripture appears to support miscegenation just as much as scripture seems to oppose it. This word, "miscegenation", is not found in the Holy Bible; rather, it is an invention of men that was set forth well over a millenium ago. Please understand that I am not opposed to people of similar "colour" marrying. If people desire to preserve their so-called "racial attributes" this is their prerogative; but it is also an equal prerogative to hybridize and make even stronger offspring than these so-called "purebred" offspring. Specialization has often been the demise of a Society. All in all, it is a great folly because GOD is no respector of persons and I am not sorry that no flesh should glory before my LORD and SAVIOUR.
 
The word "adultery" itself has also been greatly adulterated. The English language is become greatly bastardized. We live in the age of confusion. Fortunately, there are still ways to rightly divide the word of truth by the mercy and grace of our LORD. It is a great error to confuse the mixing of people and cultures with biblical adultery. Biblical adultery is sex sin. It is a form of fornication; but because we are but flesh, GOD uses metaphors and parables concerning the flesh to explain many things to us, including examples of adultery, that we might better understand the spiritual things of GOD. Anyone who believes miscegenation is a sin is also a racist. It is essential that Christians get past these fleshly strong holds. In the Holy Bible, "adultery" does not mean "mixing" of so-called races and cultures with respect to the flesh. The Hebrew word "adultery" means, literally, "Woman that breaketh wedlock" and should be treated as such. Our social engineers and secular revisionists have certainly done a fine job of adding confusion to confusion, blurring the lines of definition to the extent that our English language has all but completely lost its integrity.
 
The link you share makes many fine points and it is a shame that ten percent of the content in that link is horribly corrupt. Then again, that is precisely how Satan does his business: By mixing a little lie with alot of truth, the enemy would completely pervert the WORD of GOD to hold it in unrighteousness. If you should like to debate this matter here with me, here is the link to my debate board: *** HOT ZONE *** 
 
Should you decide to accept, I will be using the following scripture (including other scripture) to support my position against the false doctrine of racial purity:
 

For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. (ROMANS 7:18)
 
Isaiah 63
3   I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
4   For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
5   And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.
 
Galatians 3
26   For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27   For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28   There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29   And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Colossians 3
10   And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
11   Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
12   Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
 
Numbers 12
1   And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.
2   And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it.
3   (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.)
4   And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out.
5   And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth.
6   And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.
7   My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house.
 
Acts 11
4   But Peter rehearsed the matter from the beginning, and expounded it by order unto them, saying,
5   I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came even to me:
6   Upon the which when I had fastened mine eyes, I considered, and saw fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
7   And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise, Peter; slay and eat.
8   But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth.
9   But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
10   And this was done three times: and all were drawn up again into heaven.
11   And, behold, immediately there were three men already come unto the house where I was, sent from Caesarea unto me.
12   And the Spirit bade me go with them, nothing doubting. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered into the man's house:
13   And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter;
14   Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.
15   And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
 
Ephesians 2
13   But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14   For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15   Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16   And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17   And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18   For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
19   Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
 
Hebrews 9
10   Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
11   But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12   Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13   For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14   How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15   And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
 
And of course, ALL OF HEBREWS 8
 
 
God looked for a man that was pure and could not find one. So He brought His people to Him with His own arm. All flesh was corrupt. All genetics were corrupt, minds were corrupt, the priesthood was corrupt, and there was no good thing in the flesh. So God had to provide His own Flesh... His own Living Sacrifice. There is no pure race and flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. Misegenation is not a sin and it never was.
 
God bless you :)
 
 
 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameTimothyLouisSent: 2/25/2008 3:38 AM
Hi JT,

I had both your address sent to the site and this site bounce earlier
today. I will try to email you again.

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you have an address correction?

Racial discrimination is unscriptural. If I choose to avoid McDonald's
for health reasons I am discriminating against them. I am not
advocating anything that is unscriptural or demeaning. I will
discriminate when and how scripture says I should. We discriminate
against certain things everyday to avoid sin. We teach our children to
discriminate what TV to watch and what friends to pick out. Bad morals
corrupt as we say.

Christ/God discriminates as well. He chose Israel. He chose Pharaoh as
well, but not for the same purpose. Who are we to question the potter?

We do agree that adulteration is a mixing. It is rare to find someone
else who understands that it takes a married woman to have adultery. The
marital state of the man is not important.

More after the email works...

Tim


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> I am familiar with the link you shared and sent you some scripture
> on it from another sign in. Racial discrimination is another
> fleshly strong hold that needs to come down completely in the name
> of *JESUS*. Like the word "polygamy", the word "racism" has been
> so corrupted and the definition so blurred, that the word hardly
> has any integrity left to speak of, the meaning is rendered
> corrupt, and the linguistic revisionists have once again, left us
> with a completely *adulterated *mess on our hands concerning this
> word. It is not the word "racism" itself, that is so much at a
> disadvantage as the word "race" hence rendering such terminology
> arbitrary. There is no pure race on this planet.
>
> Scripture appears to support miscegenation just as much as
> scripture seems to oppose it. This word, "*miscegenation*", is not
> found in the *Holy Bible; *rather, it is an invention of men that
> was set forth well over a millenium ago. Please understand that I
> am not opposed to people of similar "colour" marrying. If people
> desire to preserve their so-called "racial attributes" this is
> their prerogative; but it is also an equal prerogative to
> *hybridize *and make even* stronger offspring *than these
> so-called "*purebred" *offspring. Specialization has often been
> the demise of a Society. All in all, it is a great folly because
> GOD is no respector of persons and I am not sorry that no flesh
> should glory before my LORD and SAVIOUR.
>
> The word "adultery" itself has also been greatly *adulterated.
> *The *English* language is become greatly *bastardized. *We live
> in the age of confusion. Fortunately, there are still ways to
> *rightly divide the word of truth *by the mercy and grace of our
> LORD. It is a great error to confuse the mixing of people and
> cultures with biblical adultery. Biblical adultery is sex sin. It
> is a form of fornication; but because we are *but flesh*, GOD uses
> metaphors and parables concerning the flesh to explain many things
> to us, including examples of adultery, that we might better
> understand the spiritual things of GOD. Anyone who believes
> *miscegenation* is a sin is *also a racist. *It is essential that
> Christians get past these fleshly strong holds. In the *Holy
> Bible, "*adultery*" *does not mean "mixing" of so-called races and
> cultures with respect to the flesh. The *Hebrew *word "adultery"
> means, literally, *"Woman that breaketh wedlock"* and should be
> treated as such. Our* social engineers *and *secular revisionists
> *have certainly done a fine job of adding confusion to confusion,
> blurring the lines of definition to the extent that our English
> language has all but completely lost its integrity.
>
> The link you share makes many fine points and it is a shame that
> ten percent of the content in that link is horribly corrupt. Then
> again, that is precisely how Satan does his business: By mixing a
> little lie with alot of truth, the enemy would completely pervert
> the WORD of GOD to hold it in unrighteousness. If you should like
> to debate this matter here with me, here is the link to my debate
> board:* ***** HOT ZONE ****
> <http://groups.msn.com/FULLBIBLETRUTH/hotzone.msnw>* *.
>
> Should you decide to accept, I will be using the following
> scripture (including other scripture) to support my position
> against the false doctrine of racial purity:
>
> http://groups.msn.com/FULLBIBLETRUTH/redefiningadultery.msnw
>
> For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good
> thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that
> which is good I find not. (ROMANS 7:18)
>
> Isaiah 63
> 3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there
> was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample
> them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my
> garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
> 4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my
> redeemed is come.
> 5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that
> there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation
> unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.
>
> Galatians 3
> 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
> 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put
> on Christ.
> 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor
> free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in
> Christ Jesus.
> 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs
> according to the promise.
>
> Colossians 3
> 10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge
> after the image of him that created him:
> 11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor
> uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is
> all, and in all.
> 12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved,
> bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness,
> longsuffering;
>
> Numbers 12
> 1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the
> Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an
> Ethiopian woman.
> 2 And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath
> he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it.
> 3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were
> upon the face of the earth.)
> 4 And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and
> unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the
> congregation. And they three came out.
> 5 And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood
> in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and
> they both came forth.
> 6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among
> you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and
> will speak unto him in a dream.
> 7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house.
>
> Acts 11
> 4 But Peter rehearsed the matter from the beginning, and
> expounded it by order unto them, saying,
> 5 I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a
> vision, A certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet,
> let down from heaven by four corners; and it came even to me:
> 6 Upon the which when I had fastened mine eyes, I considered,
> and saw fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and
> creeping things, and fowls of the air.
> 7 And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise, Peter; slay and eat.
> 8 But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath
> at any time entered into my mouth.
> 9 But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath
> cleansed, that call not thou common.
> 10 And this was done three times: and all were drawn up again
> into heaven.
> 11 And, behold, immediately there were three men already come
> unto the house where I was, sent from Caesarea unto me.
> 12 And the Spirit bade me go with them, nothing doubting.
> Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered into
> the man's house:
> 13 And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which
> stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon,
> whose surname is Peter;
> 14 Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house
> shall be saved.
> 15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on
> us at the beginning.
>
> Ephesians 2
> 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are
> made nigh by the blood of Christ.
> 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken
> down the middle wall of partition between us;
> 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of
> commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of
> twain one new man, so making peace;
> 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the
> cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
> 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and
> to them that were nigh.
> 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the
> Father.
> 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but
> fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
>
> Hebrews 9
> 10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings,
> and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
> 11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come,
> by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands,
> that is to say, not of this building;
> 12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own
> blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained
> eternal redemption for us.
> 13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an
> heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the
> flesh:
> 14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the
> eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your
> conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
> 15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament,
> that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions
> that were under the first testament, they which are called might
> receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
>
> And of course, ALL OF HEBREWS 8
>
>
> God looked for a man that was pure and could not find one. So He
> brought His people to Him with His own arm. All flesh was corrupt.
> All genetics were corrupt, minds were corrupt, the priesthood was
> corrupt, and there was no good thing in the flesh. So God had to
> provide His own Flesh... His own Living Sacrifice. There is no
> pure race and flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.
> Misegenation is not a sin and it never was.
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From: MSN NicknameJacobs_TroubleSent: 2/25/2008 7:33 AM
I'm glad to read that at least you got the information, Timothy.
 
I believe my address is correct however it could be that my security systems need to be reconfigured. Minor details at the most. I agree that Racial discrimination is unscriptural and I agree that discrimination can be a very good thing. I try not to advocate anything that is unscriptural but I will not say that it hasn't happened before and I don't pretend to don a halo. I'm not there yet. Anyone who says that they don't discriminate at all speaks falsely. We all do, and for good reason, I should hope.

I strongly discriminate against television. I don't even own one.

GOD discriminated against the enemies of Israel for a very good reason too. Yet it is evident that ALL the enemies of Israel were welcome to repent and join Israel. They did not have to necessarily become Jews to be part of Israel either although it seems that this is another popular strong hold in some circles. Judah was only one of the twelve tribes of Israel. Jews were strictly from the house of Judah.

Of course, since the initiation into the tribes of Israel was no small matter, the process would have been exercised strictly according to the OLD TESTAMENT ordinances of the LEVITE PRIESTHOOD; so joining Israel wouldn't be easy and they certainly wouldn't be allowed to join the House of Levi under any circumstances. It was common in that day to take the KINGDOM by force. That is why the sons of JACOB dealt treacherously with a certain King with respect to their sister, Dinah...They should have honored the covenant of the LORD but they dealt treacherously with that people because they were JEALOUS over their LORD. ISRAEL was the cause of their own demise. Alas, this made it possible for Gentiles and other goyim to become Jews directly to GOD, without the assistance of the LEVITE PRIESTHOOD. These LEVITES (oh yes, they are still alive today) don't like to be reminded of the fact that the MESSIAH has come and they also don't like to be reminded that SALVATION IS OF THE JEWS. Yet they call themselves Jews, and are not because they rejected the KING for another false messiah.That is why today there are still many who refute the APOSTLE PAUL's teachings because they still secretly desire the preeminence. They are going to be in for a big surprise.

Yes, we both agree that adulteration is a mixing; however when we use this terminology it is important to maintain the framework of the general context. In this respect we refer to a very general context, not excluding substantial adulteration in the flesh. Where does the buck stop? Shall we bring back dietary laws also? (Some believe that we should.) We would be commiting adultery every time we ate food with preservatives or consume anything that would change our biochemistry.
I have mixed feelings about chemically bio-engineering our genetics to permanently alter them. Isn't this a little too close to playing GOD? After all, who forms us in our mother's womb? In this general sense of the word, "adultery", can just as easily refer to a woman eating preservatives while pregnant, is committing adultery while she is pregnant. I wouldn't stone her for it, but I might grant her husband a word of caution.

The WORD says, "What therefore GOD has put together, let not man put asunder." How far do we take this? I verily believe GOD has often put together certain people of different cultures, even mixed cultures and diverse cultural extraction, to form someone that HE wanted to be born. In fact, it was for this reason (and others) that the assembly of the FIRST UNITED PENTECOSTAL CHURCH rejected me and the wife of my youth, the Pastor there even cursing me at the altar, declaring in a loud voice for all to hear, "He will never know you, Lord!" Frankly, I feel, this is racial prejudice, but we kept on attending for some time despite the pastor's objections. (I was legally married to only one wife at that time and both our children were our own.) Of course, this sort of thinking promotes the belief that "other races" can get saved too, just as long as they marry their own kind. They do err not knowing the scriptures. 

I am predominantly of a caucasian "racial" and ethnic origin and the wife of my youth is of Dene indigineous extraction. My wives are beautiful women. I suspect that the FUPC would have more easily accepted my new bride, whose skin is so "white" (melanin defficient) that she scares me some times. I don't think she can tan and I wonder if she might suffer from some form of albinoism despite her dark hair and beautiful green eyes. She brings forth the definition of "lilly white" in a way that I never properly understood. I'm more sanguine (a euphamism for pink) one might say. I can both tan and burn. lol  

 I know FUPC would probably not even let me past their doors with BOTH of my wives, but had my beloved Hope been the wife of my youth before I lawfully married a second time, I know that this would not have been a big issue. Oh no, they would found something else like... hmmm... refusing to comply with laws that are contrary to the Word of GOD. That's always a good one.

You see, there are all sorts in the human spieces! lol I've heard that there are 'Eskimos' living in the tropics now who have never seen the Arctic. Apparently they have completely different customs from any of those who still live in the Arctic. Sometimes I wonder how far this melanin pigment propensity connection to social behaviours actually carries any credibility. All variations will have propensities and all variations have propensities that are constantly changing... This is very important to understand because this is where the crunch about "mixing" comes into play... The matter is more cultural and spiritual than it is about "race". Moses did well to marry that Ethopian. That is what GOD wanted. 

It's an old argument: nuture vs. nature.

"It is rare to find someone else who understands that it takes a married woman to have adultery. The marital state of the man is not important. More after the email works..." Tim

I still have much to learn, Tim, but I know that if it is written in the volume of the book, then it is true. What GOD called sin in the OT TIMES is still sin in the NT times. GOD's moral law has NEVER changed. GOD is not a flake. JESUS does not change HIS mind like a woman vacilating in the midst of her indecision. JESUS did not want the 12 to mix because He had plans for this people, to keep them HOLY. JESUS was not in the least concerned about genetic material mixing (HE MADE IT) SO MUCH as HE was concerned about SPIRITUAL ADULTERATION from cultures that would continually worship other gods! JESUS did not reject the repentant sinner in OT times either; but if you wanted to join HIM back in that day, you also whould have had to join ISRAEL. The ZIONISTS are still trying to make a play off that, eventhough the MESSIAH is risen.

PRAISE GOD! We now look to a New Jerusalem not made with human hands nor inherited by flesh and blood, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of GOD. Therefore the laws of the commandments contained in the ordinances of the LEVITES are fulfilled in CHRIST, the KING of SALEM, the HIGH PRIEST and KING of the order of MELCHIZEDEK. This is what the LEVITES (ZIONISTS) despise. I believe the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH is also about to be devoured by ten, very hungry, and very angy kings because the PRIESTHOOD failed; and the Son of Perdition is about to be revealed. Soon, and very soon, there will be a totally NEW PRIESTHOOD. (see Revelation 21) Our LORD will be giving us a NEW NAME and we will also know HIS NEW NAME. The people of GOD will be found in the NEW BRIDE, NEW JERUSALEM, a multitude too great for any man to count.

The Mormons think they already have this, but they're missing one essential ingredient: HIS NAME IS JESUS.

GOD BLESS YOU


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From: MSN NicknameTimothyLouisSent: 2/27/2008 4:15 PM
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Hello,

Thanks for writing.

Lot's of scripture which is great. I do find a couple of assumptions on
your part in the last paragraph. The scripture is plain, but does not
necessarily go as far as you do in your summation.

You might find this interesting concerning Galatians 3.

http://www.gospelminutes.org/contra.php

A couple of years ago I contacted Dr. Priest. He was not only our math
teacher, but counselor and landlord! He made one correction, but said
that logically all was correct.

I do have a different take on Ephesians 2 than most. I find that the
chapter has been misused by most. It is in actuality a fulfillment of
several old testament prophecies. The language is quite interesting.

-----------------------------------

Now back to today.


One has always been able to align themselves to God. One can not become a Levite or Judahite other than through birth. One should keep that in mind in scripture in relation to inheritance as well. Too many people are always trying to steal Israel's inheritance.

Ever read the 1840 Book of Jasher? It is not canonized, but a very interesting read. It is available on line free. There is a link to it at this address.

http://www.gospelminutes.org/p-jasher.php

By the way, if you read Jasher you will get a different take on Moses and the Cushite woman. Jasher is a fascinating read. I enjoyed it and wonder what all the fuss is about. I know it is not canonized, but what other book do we have today that is twice mentioned in scripture? That should give us some desire to at least read it.

You know a lot of people try to say that in the old testament God dealt with some people they mistakenly call Jews. Then he gave them up and dealt with Gentiles in the new testament. This makes God a promise breaker and lier. Part of the problem is a misunderstanding with terms. I think you understand this. The term Gentile (ethnos) does not mean non-Jew and at least 6 or 7 times in scripture refers to Judahites or at least Judeans. Context is everything.

Here is a book online that I found that I highly endorse concerning the terms Jew and Gentile. I did not write it, but I wish I had. :-)

http://www.missiontoisrael.org/mystery-of-gentiles/index.php?print=1

I am not a debater. I enjoy chatting, sharing and learning. It is one problem I have when dealing with people who write me concerning things like instrumental music for instance. I have a church of Christ background and they teach the use of an instrument as sin. I understand that God does not change and can not change his morals. If it was a sin the day Adam was placed in the garden it is a sin today. If it is a sin today then it was a sin that same day. God does not change. God commanded the use of an instrument in the period of the old scriptures and thus it can not be sin today. God does not change and to change God's morals changes God into a different god. Expand that to things beyond instrumental music and you get my point and I am glad that you understand this as well. Guess I am venting! :-)

Tim





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> I believe my address is correct however it could be that my
> security systems need to be reconfigured. Minor details at the
> most. I agree that Racial discrimination is unscriptural and I
> agree that discrimination can be a very good thing. I try not to
> advocate anything that is unscriptural but I will not say that it
> hasn't happened before and I don't pretend to don a halo. I'm not
> there yet. Anyone who says that they don't discriminate at all
> speaks falsely. We all do, and for good reason, I should hope.
>
> I strongly discriminate against television. I don't even own one.
>
> GOD discriminated against the enemies of Israel for a very good
> reason too. Yet it is evident that _ALL_ the enemies of Israel
> were welcome to repent and join Israel. They did not have to
> necessarily become Jews to be part of Israel either although it
> seems that this is another popular strong hold in some circles.
> Judah was only one of the twelve tribes of Israel. Jews were
> strictly from the house of Judah.
>
> Of course, since the initiation into the tribes of Israel was no
> small matter, the process would have been exercised strictly
> according to the OLD TESTAMENT ordinances of the LEVITE
> PRIESTHOOD; so joining Israel wouldn't be easy and they certainly
> wouldn't be allowed to join the House of Levi under any
> circumstances. It was common in that day to take the KINGDOM by
> force. That is why the sons of JACOB dealt treacherously with a
> certain King with respect to their sister, Dinah...They should
> have honored the covenant of the LORD but they dealt treacherously
> with that people because they were JEALOUS over their LORD. ISRAEL
> was the cause of their own demise. Alas, this made it possible
> for* Gentiles *and other *goyim *to become* Jews *directly to GOD,
> without the assistance of the* LEVITE PRIESTHOOD*. These *LEVITES*
> (oh yes, they are still alive today) don't like to be reminded of
> the fact that the MESSIAH has come and they also don't like to be
> reminded that *SALVATION IS OF THE JEWS.* Yet they call themselves
> Jews, and are not because they rejected the KING for another false
> messiah.That is why today there are still many who refute the*
> APOSTLE PAUL's *teachings because they still secretly desire the
> preeminence. They are going to be in for a big surprise.
>
> Yes, we both agree that adulteration is a mixing; however when we
> use this terminology it is important to maintain the framework of
> the general context. In this respect we refer to a very general
> context, not excluding substantial adulteration in the flesh.
> Where does the buck stop? Shall we bring back dietary laws also?
> (Some believe that we should.) We would be commiting adultery
> every time we ate food with preservatives or consume anything that
> would change our biochemistry. I have mixed feelings about
> chemically bio-engineering our genetics to permanently alter them.
> Isn't this a little too close to playing GOD? After all, who forms
> us in our mother's womb? In this general sense of the word,
> "adultery", can just as easily refer to a woman eating
> preservatives while pregnant, is committing adultery while she is
> pregnant. I wouldn't stone her for it, but I might grant her
> husband a word of caution.
>
> The WORD says, "What therefore GOD has put together, let not man
> put asunder." How far do we take this? I verily believe GOD has
> often put together certain people of different cultures, even
> mixed cultures and diverse cultural extraction, to form someone
> that HE wanted to be born. In fact, it was for this reason (and
> others) that the assembly of the *FIRST UNITED PENTECOSTAL CHURCH*
> rejected me and the wife of my youth, the Pastor there even
> cursing me at the altar, declaring in a loud voice for all to
> hear, "He will never know you, Lord!" Frankly, I feel, this is
> racial prejudice, but we kept on attending for some time despite
> the pastor's objections. (I was legally married to only one wife
> at that time and both our children were our own.) Of course, this
> sort of thinking promotes the belief that "other races" can get
> saved too, just as long as they marry their own kind. They do err
> not knowing the scriptures.
>
> I am predominantly of a caucasian "racial" and ethnic origin and
> the wife of my youth is of *Dene *indigineous extraction. My wives
> are beautiful women. I suspect that the *FUPC* would have more
> easily accepted my *new bride, *whose skin is so "white" (melanin
> defficient) that she scares me some times. I don't think she can
> tan and I wonder if she might suffer from some form of albinoism
> despite her dark hair and beautiful green eyes. She brings forth
> the definition of "lilly white" in a way that I never properly
> understood. I'm more sanguine (a euphamism for pink) one might
> say. I can both tan and burn. *lol *
>
> I know FUPC would probably not even let me past their doors with
> *_BOTH_* of my wives, but had my beloved Hope been the wife of my
> youth before I lawfully married a second time, I know that this
> would not have been a big issue. Oh no, they would found something
> else like... hmmm... */refusing to comply with laws that are
> contrary to the Word of GOD./* That's always a good one.
>
> You see, there are all sorts in the human spieces!* lol *I've
> heard that there are *'Eskimos'* living in the tropics now who
> have never seen the Arctic. Apparently they have completely
> different customs from any of those who still live in the Arctic.
> Sometimes I wonder how far this melanin pigment propensity
> connection to social behaviours actually carries any credibility.
> All variations will have propensities and all variations have
> propensities that are constantly changing... This is very
> important to understand because this is where the *crunch about
> "mixing"* comes into play... The matter is more cultural and
> spiritual than it is about "race". Moses did well to marry that
> Ethopian. That is what GOD wanted.
>
> It's an old argument: nuture vs. nature.
>
> *"It is rare to find someone else who understands that it takes a
> married woman to have adultery. The marital state of the man is
> not important. *More after the email works..." Tim
>
> *I still have much to learn, Tim, but I know that if it is written
> in the volume of the book, then it is true. What GOD called sin in
> the OT TIMES is still sin in the NT times. GOD's moral law has
> NEVER changed. GOD is not a flake. JESUS does not change HIS mind
> like a woman vacilating in the midst of her indecision. JESUS did
> not want the 12 to mix because He had plans for this people, to
> keep them HOLY. JESUS was not in the least concerned about genetic
> material mixing (HE MADE IT) SO MUCH as HE was concerned about
> _SPIRITUAL ADULTERATION_ from cultures that would continually
> worship other gods! JESUS did not reject the repentant sinner in
> OT times either; but if you wanted to join HIM back in that day,
> you also whould have had to join ISRAEL. The ZIONISTS are still
> trying to make a play off that, eventhough the MESSIAH is risen.*
>
> *PRAISE GOD! We now look to a New Jerusalem not made with human
> hands nor inherited by flesh and blood, but by every word that
> proceeds from the mouth of GOD. Therefore the laws of the
> commandments contained in the ordinances of the LEVITES are
> fulfilled in CHRIST, the KING of SALEM, the HIGH PRIEST and KING
> of the order of MELCHIZEDEK. This is what the LEVITES
> (ZIONISTS) despise. I believe the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH is also
> about to be devoured by ten, very hungry, and very angy kings
> because the PRIESTHOOD failed; and the Son of Perdition is about
> to be revealed. **Soon, and very soon, there will be a totally NEW
> PRIESTHOOD. (see Revelation 21) Our LORD will be giving us a NEW
> NAME and we will also know HIS NEW NAME. The people of GOD will be
> found in the NEW BRIDE, NEW JERUSALEM, a multitude too great for
> any man to count.*
>
> *The Mormons think they already have this, but they're missing one
> essential ingredient: HIS NAME IS JESUS.*
>
> *GOD BLESS YOU*
>
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From: MSN NicknameJacobs_TroubleSent: 2/27/2008 11:22 PM
God bless you, Timothy
 
You just brought a smile to my face when I needed one. Yes, the logic of men sure can be foolishness before GOD. I will readily concede, in this respect that many things that seem right unto a man in these latter days are only met with the ways of death. If you would prefer to address my communications in this MSN GROUP through your private e-mailing program to [email protected] it works for me just fine. You will not be able to contact me through [email protected] for security reasons.
 
I apologise for this and I was not aware of it until recently. All this security stuff can be such a vexation. Of course you could elect to log into the group and post directly to http://groups.msn.com/FULLBIBLETRUTH/ as most of us here do. I submit to you that miscegenation is not a sin, nor has it ever been a sin. The fact alone that the pride of the flesh rises to the surface every time this issue is brought to the table, is proof enough for me that the goal for racial purity is clearly a vanity in the sight of GOD. Racial pride put this world in a whole mess of trouble.
 
Although the history of the world has proven that the tribes of Israel were indeed robbed, it is equally evident that the pendulum swings both ways. I thank JESUS that He freely extended the opportunity for goyim like me to be grafted into the tree of life. Now I get to be a Jew too! YAAAAAAY! At the end of the day, none of these metaphors will matter.
 
  Salvation is of the Jews.
 
Please understand that I do not oppose anyone who cares to preserve their racial purity in this short and meaningless life. I know that there won't be any of this nonsense in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN and there will certainly be none of it in the resurrection. Galatians 3:28 What I do oppose is people who call inter-racial marriage "adultery" because it is not �?at least not in the biblical sense of the word. See: REDEFINING ADULTERY  
 
To be completely fair, I am not opposed to marrying a woman that GOD adds to a man who is of a different ethnic origin, or "race", because GOD has done this many times and He is still doing it today. It is not of GOD however, to be unequally yoked. A man must marry a woman of the same faith. I recommend that this even apply to denominations. A Baptist should not marry a Lutheran. That is a recipie for disaster, to be sure. However, when one keeps missing the mark, trouble is unavoidable. I am neither Lutheran, nor Baptist. I put away denominationalism years ago because it creates divisions among the people of GOD. Sooner or later, we must all come out of Babylon.
 
It seems that not unlike me, you have a few strong holds that need to be pulled down in the name of JESUS as well. Moses did indeed marry an Ethopian woman and his sister was so jealous in the flesh that GOD showed her what it really meant to be white. I fully believe that the LORD's judgment is flawless. To be sure, Miriam wasn't jealous because Moses took another wife, as this was standard practice among Hebrew men. Moses was fair-skinned and Miriam didn't want any dark-skinned nieces and nephews. If you still believe it is wrong to give GOD the praise with musical instruments you are a victim of legalism. As you stated, GOD's MORAL LAW stands.
 

Psalms 150

1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power.

2 Praise him for his mighty acts: praise him according to his excellent greatness.

3 Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp.

4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.

5 Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.

6 Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD.

 
Why would our LORD ever change such a thing? Where is it written that He changed it? Better to give GOD the glory with musical instruments than to give the glory to another with them. But as my LORD keeps reminding me, the Devil means to corrupt every good thing from GOD. If wasn't a sin in OT TIMES it surely isn't a sin today to praise GOD with musical instruments.
 
I don't take stock in any ADD-ONS to the HOLY BIBLE. I know that all that I need to be saved and live a Godly life is written in between the lids of that old English version that was first delivered en mass to the English speaking peoples. I also believe that different versions of the Bible following the KING JAMES and written in Modern English will only create more damage than good. People were getting saved with the AKJV 1611 version for centuries before other versions broke into the field and what was the result of that?
 
MASS DIVISIONS.
 

1 Corinthians 11

17 Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse.

18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.

19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

GOD bless you and your house in the name of JESUS, the Only Wise GOD

JT

 


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