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From: XtraMSN Nickname·TammyJo·  (Original Message)Sent: 1/03/2004 3:03 p.m.
My husband had an affair just 2yrs after we were married and at that time our son was 2. We went to marriage counseling and I was already in my own counseling. Rob is a psychiatric Nurse Practitioner, and see's pts. as a physician does. He told me during our counseling that he could manipulate the sessions and make it turn out what ever way he wanted. At that time I thought he was just talking BS. Now 5 yrs. later with lots of games and having a basically a sexual relationship I became very suspicious and did my own spying and found out he is sleeping with a pt. a very labile bipolar with intermitt explosive disorder. Now that I have exposed this relationship to him all kinds of awful transactions have occured. I can not tell what is lies and what is not. I placed a voice activated recorder in his truck and taped a conversation between him and this pt. and I was horrified. It was like listening to a total stranger. We are now in the process of a dissolution, per his request, I am in therapy again and on antidepressants. He wont move all the way out, he keeps coming back I even had him kicked out by the police one day, its a mess. What he is doing is malpractice and he continues to see this pt.  This is a brief history of what is going on now and there is soooooooo much more.  It was not until this incident that I became familar with N personality disorder.  I just thought he was a jackass.    Teresa


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From: XtraMSN Nickname·TammyJo·Sent: 2/03/2004 1:01 a.m.
Hi Dr. Sam. This is Teresa's first question for the study:
 
I am in the process of a dissolution from my husband that I believe to have strong narsasstic traits but not pathological. We have a 6yr. old son together, and he watches him some days before I get home from work. I have tried to make a no contact rule with him the best I can without injuring his and our sons relationship. I finally got him to quite calling me during the day. What is the best defense against someone of this personality disorder when you are forced to communicate with them?

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From: XtraMSN Nicknamejudytea2Sent: 2/03/2004 3:16 a.m.
My husband had an N for an Xw. His solution was to refuse contact unless it was in WRITING. She would write a note and send it with son for visits, he would update her with a return note... which definitely kept things calm, but had it's draw backs as well.

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From: XtraMSN NicknamesamvakSent: 2/03/2004 12:56 p.m.
Hello, Teresa,
 
If you are forced to communicate with him:
 
Insist on Your Boundaries �?/SPAN> Resist Abuse
  • Refuse to accept abusive behavior. Demand reasonably predictable and rational actions and reactions. Insist on respect for your boundaries, predilections, preferences, and priorities.

  • Demand a just and proportional treatment. Reject or ignore unjust and capricious behavior.

  • If you are up to the inevitable confrontation, react in kind. Let him taste some of his own medicine.

  • Never show your abuser that you are afraid of him. Do not negotiate with bullies. They are insatiable. Do not succumb to blackmail.

  • If things get rough- disengage, involve law enforcement officers, friends and colleagues, or threaten him (legally).

  • Do not keep your abuse a secret. Secrecy is the abuser's weapon.

  • Never give him a second chance. React with your full arsenal to the first transgression.

  • Be guarded. Don't be too forthcoming in a first or casual meeting. Gather intelligence.

  • Be yourself. Don't misrepresent your wishes, boundaries, preferences, priorities, and red lines.

  • Do not behave inconsistently. Do not go back on your word. Be firm and resolute.

  • Stay away from such quagmires. Scrutinize every offer and suggestion, no matter how innocuous.

  • Prepare backup plans. Keep others informed of your whereabouts and appraised of your situation.

  • Be vigilant and doubting. Do not be gullible and suggestible. Better safe than sorry.

  • Often the abuser's proxies are unaware of their role. Expose him. Inform them. Demonstrate to them how they are being abused, misused, and plain used by the abuser.

  • Trap your abuser. Treat him as he treats you. Involve others. Bring it into the open. Nothing like sunshine to disinfest abuse.

(1b) Mirror His Behavior

Mirror the narcissist’s actions and repeat his words.

If, for instance, he is having a rage attack �?rage back. If he threatens �?threaten back and credibly try to use the same language and content. If he leaves the house �?leave it as well, disappear on him. If he is suspicious �?act suspicious. Be critical, denigrating, humiliating, go down to his level.

(1c) Frighten Him

Identify the vulnerabilities and susceptibilities of the narcissist and strike repeated, escalating blows at them.

If a narcissist has a secret or something he wishes to conceal �?use your knowledge of it to threaten him. Drop cryptic hints that there are mysterious witnesses to the events and recently revealed evidence. Do it cleverly, noncommittally, gradually, in an escalating manner.

Let his imagination do the rest. You don't have to do much except utter a vague reference, make an ominous allusion, delineate a possible turn of events.

Needless to add that all these activities have to be pursued legally, preferably through the good services of law offices and in broad daylight. If done in the wrong way �?they might constitute extortion or blackmail, harassment and a host of other criminal offences.

(1d) Lure Him

Offer him continued Narcissistic Supply. You can make a narcissist do anything by offering, withholding, or threatening to withhold Narcissistic Supply (adulation, admiration, attention, sex, awe, subservience, etc.).

(1e) Play on His Fear of Abandonment

If nothing else works, explicitly threaten to abandon him.

You can condition the threat ("If you don't do something or if you do it �?I will desert you").

The narcissists perceives the following as threats of abandonment, even if they are not meant as such:

  • Confrontation, fundamental disagreement, and protracted criticism
  • When completely ignored
  • When you insist on respect for your boundaries, needs, emotions, choices, preferences
  • When you retaliate (for instance, shout back at him).

I described in "The Guilt of the Abused - Pathologizing the Victim" how the system is biased and titled against the victim.

Regrettably, mental health professionals and practitioners ï¿½?/SPAN> marital and couple therapists, counselors �?/SPAN> are conditioned, by years of indoctrinating and dogmatic education, to respond favorably to specific verbal cues.

The paradigm is that abuse is rarely one sided �?/SPAN> in other words, that it is invariably "triggered" either by the victim or by the mental health problems of the abuser. Another common lie is that all mental health problems can be successfully treated one way (talk therapy) or another (medication).

This shifts the responsibility from the offender to his prey. The abused must have done something to bring about their own maltreatment  �?/SPAN> or simply were emotionally "unavailable" to help the abuser with his problems. Healing is guaranteed if only the victim were willing to participate in a treatment plan and communicate with the abuser. So goes the orthodoxy.

Refusal to do so �?/SPAN> in other words, refusal to risk further abuse �?/SPAN> is harshly judged by the therapist. The victim is labeled uncooperative, resistant, or even abusive!

The key is, therefore, feigned acquiescence and collaboration with the therapist's scheme, acceptance of his/her interpretation of the events, and the use of key phrases such as: "I wish to communicate/work with (the abuser)", "trauma", "relationship", "healing process", "inner child", "the good of the children", "the importance of fathering", "significant other" and other psycho-babble. Learn the jargon, use it intelligently and you are bound to win the therapist's sympathy.

Above all �?/SPAN> do not be assertive, or aggressive and do not overtly criticize the therapist or disagree with him/her.

I make the therapist sound like yet another potential abuser �?/SPAN> because in many cases, he/she becomes one as they inadvertently collude with the abuser, invalidate the abuse experiences, and pathologize the victim.

(2c) Refuse All Gratuitous Contact

  • Be sure to maintain as much contact with your abuser as the courts, counsellors, mediators, guardians, or law enforcement officials mandate.
  • Do NOT contravene the decisions of the system. Work from the inside to change judgments, evaluations, or rulings �?/SPAN> but NEVER rebel against them or ignore them. You will only turn the system against you and your interests.
  • But with the exception of the minimum mandated by the courts �?/SPAN> decline any and all gratuitous contact with the narcissist.
  • Do not respond to his pleading, romantic, nostalgic, flattering, or threatening e-mail messages.
  • Return all gifts he sends you.
  • Refuse him entry to your premises. Do not even respond to the intercom.
  • Do not talk to him on the phone. Hang up the minute you hear his voice while making clear to him, in a single, polite but firm, sentence, that you are determined not to talk to him.
  • Do not answer his letters.
  • Do not visit him on special occasions, or in emergencies.
  • Do not respond to questions, requests, or pleas forwarded to you through third parties.
  • Disconnect from third parties whom you know are spying on you at his behest.
  • Do not discuss him with your children.
  • Do not gossip about him.
  • Do not ask him for anything, even if you are in dire need.
  • When you are forced to meet him, do not discuss your personal affairs �?/SPAN> or his.
  • Relegate any inevitable contact with him �?/SPAN> when and where possible �?/SPAN> to professionals: your lawyer, or your accountant.

There is a lot more practical advice in these two series of articles:

 
 
Take care.
 
Sam

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From: XtraMSN Nickname·TammyJo·Sent: 3/03/2004 4:02 a.m.
My question is; even though I dont believe that my soon to be x-husband is pathological, how do you determine the gradation of narcissism? Rob actually admits to having a personality disorder and is seeking treatment, but he is also educated in this field and I dont know what is the truth or lies. Should I limit his time with our son, they have a very close relationship.  Teresa

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From: XtraMSN NicknamesamvakSent: 3/03/2004 12:25 p.m.
Hi, Teresa,
 
how do you determine the gradation of narcissism?
 
Sam:
 
You don't.
 
Please do not forget that only a qualified mental health diagnostician -
which I am not (more about me here: http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/indexqa.html ) - can determine whether
someone suffers from NPD and this, following lengthy tests and personal
interviews.
 
Unfortunately, even a complete battery of tests, administered by experienced professionals sometimes fails to identify abusers and their personality disorders. Offenders are uncanny in their ability to deceive their evaluators. They often succeed in transforming therapists and diagnosticians into four types of collaborators: the adulators, the blissfully ignorant, the self-deceiving, and those deceived by the batterer's conduct or statements.

Abusers co-opt mental health and social welfare workers and compromise them �?/SPAN> even when the diagnosis is unequivocal �?/SPAN> by flattering them, by emphasizing common traits or a common background, by forming a joint front against the victim of abuse ("shared psychosis"), or by emotionally bribing them. Abusers are master manipulators and exploit the vulnerabilities, traumas, prejudices, and fears of the practitioners to "convert" them to the offender's cause.

I. The Adulators

The adulators are fully aware of the nefarious and damaging aspects of the abuser's behavior but believe that they are more than balanced by his positive traits. In a curious inversion of judgment, they cast the perpetrator as the victim of a smear campaign orchestrated by the abused or attribute the offender's predicament to bigotry.

They mobilize to help the abuser, promote his agenda, shield him from harm, connect him with like-minded people, do his chores for him and, in general, create the conditions and the environment for his ultimate success.

II. The Ignorant

As I wrote in "The Guilt of the Abused", it is telling that precious few psychology and psychopathology textbooks dedicate an entire chapter to abuse and violence. Even the most egregious manifestations �?/SPAN> such as child sexual abuse �?/SPAN> merit a fleeting mention, usually as a sub-chapter in a larger section dedicated to paraphilias or personality disorders.

Abusive behavior did not make it into the diagnostic criteria of mental health disorders, nor were its psychodynamic, cultural and social roots explored in depth. As a result of this deficient education and lacking awareness, most law enforcement officers, judges, counselors, guardians, and mediators are worryingly ignorant about the phenomenon.

Only 4% of hospital emergency room admissions of women in the United States are attributed by staff to domestic violence. The true figure, according to the FBI, is more like 50%. One in three murdered women was done in by her spouse, current or former.

The blissfully ignorant mental health professionals are simply unaware of the "bad sides" of the abuser �?/SPAN> and make sure they remain oblivious to them. They look the other way, or pretend that the abuser's behavior is normative, or turn a blind eye to his egregious conduct.

Even therapists sometimes deny a painful reality that contravenes their bias. Some of them maintain a generally rosy outlook premised on the alleged inbred benevolence of Mankind. Others simply cannot tolerate dissonance and discord. They prefer to live in a fantastic world where everything is harmonious and smooth and evil is banished. They react with discomfort or even rage to any information to the contrary and block it out instantly.

Once they form an opinion that the accusations against the abusers are overblown, malicious, and false - it becomes immutable. "I have made up my mind �?/SPAN> they seem to be broadcasting �?/SPAN> "Now don't confuse me with the facts."

III. The Self-Deceivers

The self-deceivers are fully aware of the abuser's transgressions and malice, his indifference, exploitativeness, lack of empathy, and rampant grandiosity �?/SPAN> but they prefer to displace the causes, or the effects of such misconduct. They attribute it to externalities ("a rough patch"), or judge it to be temporary. They even go as far as accusing the victim for the offender's lapses, or for defending herself ("she provoked him").

In a feat of cognitive dissonance, they deny any connection between the acts of the abuser and their consequences ("his wife abandoned him because she was promiscuous, not because of anything he did to her"). They are swayed by the batterer's undeniable charm, intelligence, or attractiveness. But the abuser needs not invest resources in converting them to his cause �?/SPAN> he does not deceive them. They are self-propelled.

IV. The Deceived

The deceived are deliberately taken for a premeditated ride by the abuser. He feeds them false information, manipulates their judgment, proffers plausible scenarios to account for his indiscretions, soils the opposition, charms them, appeals to their reason, or to their emotions, and promises the moon.

Again, the abuser's incontrovertible powers of persuasion and his impressive personality play a part in this predatory ritual. The deceived are especially hard to deprogram. They are often themselves encumbered with the abuser's traits and find it impossible to admit a mistake, or to atone.

From "The Guilt of the Abused":

Therapists, marriage counselors, mediators, court-appointed guardians, police officers, and judges are human. Some of them are social reactionaries, others are abusers, and a few are themselves spouse abusers. Many things work against the victim facing the justice system and the psychological profession.

Start with denial. Abuse is such a horrid phenomenon that society and its delegates often choose to ignore it or to convert it into a more benign manifestation, typically by pathologizing the situation or the victim �?/SPAN> rather than the perpetrator.

A man's home is still his castle and the authorities are loath to intrude.

Most abusers are men and most victims are women. Even the most advanced communities in the world are largely patriarchal. Misogynistic gender stereotypes, superstitions, and prejudices are strong.

Therapists are not immune to these ubiquitous and age-old influences and biases.

They are amenable to the considerable charm, persuasiveness, and manipulativeness of the abuser and to his impressive thespian skills. The abuser offers a plausible rendition of the events and interprets them to his favor. The therapist rarely has a chance to witness an abusive exchange first hand and at close quarters. In contrast, the abused are often on the verge of a nervous breakdown: harassed, unkempt, irritable, impatient, abrasive, and hysterical.

Confronted with this contrast between a polished, self-controlled, and suave abuser and his harried casualties �?/SPAN> it is easy to reach the conclusion that the real victim is the abuser, or that both parties abuse each other equally. The prey's acts of self-defense, assertiveness, or insistence on her rights are interpreted as aggression, lability, or a mental health problem.

The profession's propensity to pathologize extends to the wrongdoers as well. Alas, few therapists are equipped to do proper clinical work, including diagnosis.

Abusers are thought by practitioners of psychology to be emotionally disturbed, the twisted outcomes of a history of familial violence and childhood traumas. They are typically diagnosed as suffering from a personality disorder, an inordinately low self-esteem, or codependence coupled with an all-devouring fear of abandonment. Consummate abusers use the right vocabulary and feign the appropriate "emotions" and affect and, thus, sway the evaluator's judgment.

But while the victim's "pathology" works against her �?/SPAN> especially in custody battles �?/SPAN> the culprit's "illness" works for him, as a mitigating circumstance, especially in criminal proceedings.

In his seminal essay, "Understanding the Batterer in Visitation and Custody Disputes", Lundy Bancroft sums up the asymmetry in favor of the offender:

"Batterers ...  adopt the role of a hurt, sensitive man who doesn't understand how things got so bad and just wants to work it all out 'for the good of the children'. He may cry ... and use language that demonstrates considerable insight into his own feelings. He is likely to be skilled at explaining how other people have turned the victim against him, and how she is denying him access to the children as a form of revenge ... He commonly accuses her of having mental health problems, and may state that her family and friends agree with him ...  that she is hysterical and that she is promiscuous. The abuser tends to be comfortable lying, having years of practice, and so can sound believable when making baseless statements. The abuser benefits ... when professionals believe that they can "just tell" who is lying and who is telling the truth, and so fail to adequately investigate.

Because of the effects of trauma, the victim of battering will often seem hostile, disjointed, and agitated, while the abuser appears friendly, articulate, and calm. Evaluators are thus tempted to conclude that the victim is the source of the problems in the relationship."

There is little the victim can do to "educate" the therapist or "prove" to him who is the guilty party. Mental health professionals are as ego-centered as the next person. They are emotionally invested in opinions they form or in their interpretation of the abusive relationship. They perceive every disagreement as a challenge to their authority and are likely to pathologize such behavior, labeling it "resistance" (or worse).

In the process of mediation, marital therapy, or evaluation, counselors frequently propose various techniques to ameliorate the abuse or bring it under control. Woe betides the party that dares object or turn these "recommendations" down. Thus, an abuse victim who declines to have any further contact with her batterer �?/SPAN> is bound to be chastised by her therapist for obstinately refusing to constructively communicate with her violent spouse.

Better to play ball and adopt the sleek mannerisms of your abuser. Sadly, sometimes the only way to convince your therapist that it is not all in your head and that you are a victim �?/SPAN> is by being insincere and by staging a well-calibrated performance, replete with the correct vocabulary. Therapists have Pavlovian reactions to certain phrases and theories and to certain "presenting signs and symptoms" (behaviors during the first few sessions). Learn these �?/SPAN> and use them to your advantage. It is your only chance.

You ask:
Should I limit his time with our son, they have a very close relationship
 
Sam:
 
A parent diagnosed with full-fledged Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) should be denied custody and be granted only restricted rights of visitation under supervision.

Narcissists accord the same treatment to children and adults. They regard both as sources of narcissistic supply, mere instruments of gratification - idealize them at first and then devalue them in favour of alternative, safer and more subservient, sources. Such treatment is traumatic and can have long-lasting emotional effects.

The narcissist's inability to acknowledge and abide by the personal boundaries set by others puts the child at heightened risk of abuse - verbal, emotional, physical, and, often, sexual. His possessiveness and panoply of indiscriminate negative emotions - transformations of aggression, such as rage and envy - hinder his ability to act as a "good enough" parent. His propensities for reckless behaviour, substance abuse, and sexual deviance endanger the child's welfare, or even his or her life.

You can find more here:

 
 
Take care.
 
Sam

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From: XtraMSN Nickname·TammyJo·Sent: 4/03/2004 1:36 p.m.
Does hypnosis ever work to determine what kind of past trauma triggered the N development of personality? If you can determine what kind of childhood trauma or relationship crisis helped developed this type of disorder, would hypnosis help in treatment of a nonpathological N personality?

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From: XtraMSN NicknamesamvakSent: 5/03/2004 9:56 a.m.
Hi, Teresa,
 
I am not aware of any attempt to treat narcissism or NPD with hypnosis.
 
The narcissist's control freakery and ingrained sense of superiority would make it difficult to apply hypnosis as a treatment modality. The narcissist is likely to resist the suggestive cues of the hypnotist in an attempt not to lose control and not to "succumb" to someone else's willpower.
 
Moreover, unlike the dissociative class of disorders, narcissism is not the result on a single, deeply repressed event or series of events. It is not the result of trauma - it is the result of abuse. The narcissist clearly knows and remembers what was done to him, usually over many years. No need to use hypnosis to elicit these memories. The therapist only casts the narcissist's recollections in a new light - reinterprets them and thus helps the narcissist to cope with his sad past.
 
Take care and I hope this exchange has been of some use to you!
 
Sam

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