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General : Why is NC so hard the second time around?
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 Message 1 of 19 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN NicknameKIMBO958  (Original Message)Sent: 11/11/2008 10:51 a.m.
I know the deal.
Been there. Done that.
So why is the second time around so hard?
He is still hoovering and I am trying very hard to disentangle myself.
 
I know the deal. The wreck is coming. So why is this so difficult to walk away from? I am very knowledgeable about narcissism...yet can't get this part.
 
Thanks.


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 Message 5 of 19 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN NicknameTheresa453Sent: 11/11/2008 3:06 p.m.
Kim,
 
I think all of us here still have that hope (that's tucked very far back in our hearts) that they have changed. That they see their evils ways and truly are our knights in shining armour. This second go around with your XN has sent you reeling because, even for a brief second, the hope that he had changed was there. Even tho we are total NC for months there is still that part of us that still loves these N's. We know they are awful for us....but.....the feelings were so deep that I beleive we hang on to a small part of them.
 
I know this is hard for you. Remember how you did it before. Sometimes it's minute by minute. And then hour by hour. Then it becomes day by day. And one morning you will wake up and not gave one thought about him all day!!
 
Namaste,
Theresa
 
 
 
 

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 Message 6 of 19 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN NicknameKIMBO958Sent: 11/11/2008 5:41 p.m.
Theresa and Kyra.

He just sends emails to old address which I need to keep open for a few more days which I delete. Still the temptation is strong to reply. And yes the fear is there that if I do when will the train run me over again. Which makes the whole thing more stupid.


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From: XtraMSN NicknamekyrajamesSent: 11/11/2008 5:55 p.m.
Kim- you sent him the letter right? No, hang on, you phoned him in front of the officer at the police station to tell him it was over- I'm sorry- I can't remember exactly....
So all this is evidence against him, right?
Because he should not be bothering you anymore..... Can you get an RO?
 
 

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 Message 8 of 19 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN NicknameKIMBO958Sent: 11/11/2008 6:02 p.m.
Kyra
Yes I can.
But my concern is ME.
Why am I being pulled back in.
Every morning I pray to continue NC.
It is so very hard.
I yell at myself. I scream at the sky.
He had started the D&D. I see it. And the f**ing salad.
And I know Kyra this is wrong for me to continue thinking about him.
I cannot go through that trainwreck again but for the life of me Kyra I can't stop this pull to see him again.
I cannot be thrown down again. Yet I feel myself going. Yes, I called the police. I did all the right things, but I fear I am my own worse enemy right now.

Kimbo.

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From: XtraMSN NicknamekyrajamesSent: 11/11/2008 6:23 p.m.
Kim- I'm not completely sure- but I think I know what is going on with you.
You were really upset at seeing him, and I know that, I know how traumatic it was for you- BUT- are you more upset at yourself that you broke NC and almost got sucked back in? Are you frustrated because you feel like you can't do it?
You have lost faith in yourself and your strength and your ability?
Hon, I know it is so very hard, but Ij ust want you to think about this for a second.
I know you would go back and do it differently. I know that you would have maintained NC.
But the thing is, we can't go back and change what was- we can only change what IS.
I know that this has shaken you to your very core, but Kim, it's what you do now. You can do this. Even though you have started over, think about the five months that you went NC. You did it then, under pretty extreme circumstances, might I add.
DON'T count the 'blip' (because that is what I think it is). You were unprepared.
Think about before. Think about what you did, what you read, and how many people here you have helped yourself, and with your story- YOU CAN DO THIS.
If Periwinkle were here, she would jump right in with me, and the truth is, it's coz we all know you are incredibly strong, Kim- it's a big thing with you.
Don't put too much expectation into it, okay? Just baby steps. Kinda like before. You have had a big confidence knock, honey. But you can get it back.
Remember, we are all here with you.
((((BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG HUGS))))
Lots of Love, Love Kyra xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 

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From: XtraMSN Nicknameperiwinkle6227Sent: 11/11/2008 9:26 p.m.
Yo, Kimbo!  Sorry that the N is still trying to hoover you.  After everything it pulled on you, what a jerk! 
 
It takes time, honey, for the fog to clear.  You got a good dose of it when the N showed up again.  Give yourself some internal space.  You were successful in NC before and I know you will be now.  You are very strong.  You are very smart.  You know what to do and it sounds like you are doing it.  The head is going to win over the heart but it will take time, honey, which you know.  Don't be so hard on yourself.  Instead treat yourself like royalty for making the very healthy choice of NC.
 
Hugs out to you, Kim.

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 Message 11 of 19 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN NicknameKIMBO958Sent: 12/11/2008 3:08 a.m.
Boy it took awhile to post. MSN is a pain.
 
Kyra and Peri.
 
Thanks. I am trying....
Dont have much else to say but please keep pushing for me.
 
 

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 Message 12 of 19 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN Nicknameblindfor35yearsSent: 12/11/2008 9:59 a.m.
Hey Kim!!!

Sorry I haven't posted sooner. I've been mainly on the new board.

I'm with Kyra. This is a blip. You got momentarily de-railed but you're back on track. You're not sailing along like you were before because it takes time to get the momentum going again, but just keep on chugging. (I know I know I'm mixing metaphors)

What you have to remember is that you are NOT back at square one. You are STILL way further along than you were before.

If you are worried that he's going to suck you back in against all your better judgement, it's time to get out those lists you made of all the garbage he put you through. If you never made the lists, now would be a good time to write it all down. If you're looking at old lists, try re-typing everything so that the information really gets firmly into your brain. I think that right now it wouldn't hurt if you got royally p*ssed off at him all over again. I mean righteously, furiously angry.

Then, if you still feel in danger of getting sucked back in, try making the love list. I've mentioned it here before. It's a kind of corny thing I saw on Oprah but it really helped me. You make a list of 100 things you want in a partner. It has to be 100 items long (it took me a couple of days to come up with so many "wishes") Then you're supposed to put the list away and trust that the universe will figure out how to deliver the partner who matches the things on the list.

What was really helpful to me when I made the list is that I could see, very, very clearly, that psycho-nut-job nh was a far far cry from the kind of person I wanted to spend my life with. He was even a far far cry from the kind of person I wanted to have dinner with. Out of the 100 things I listed he matched maybe 24 qualities--and not even the most important ones.

Kim, the n ambushed you and threw a great big blanket of smelly, disgusting, poisonous n-fog all over you. But it's not going to work because you know just exactly what he's up to, you know exactly how crazy he is and you know exactly the magic spell to escape.

You're getting up today, it's going to be a bright, sunny autumn day in New Jersey and you're going to stay NC and, at the very least, a tiny part of you--maybe so small you don't even notice it--is going to get better.

And every hour on the hour I am going to think positive, supportive thoughts for Kim and send them out into New Jersey to find you.

(In answer to a question you asked: Along with millions of others I live in the area of NJ hospitable to NYC commuters. But I don't commute to NYC--thank heavens!)



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 Message 13 of 19 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN NicknameKIMBO958Sent: 12/11/2008 10:50 a.m.
Blind. Thanks.
I read your post many times this morning.
 
Kyra and Peri. I will read your posts many times also.
 
I am grasping now to stay NC.Every day is a challenge.
 
Keep writing.I did it before.I can do it again.
He did not change as much as he appears to have.
 
Blind. - I think I know where you live.  I grew up where George Washington slept. And work close to that area....

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 Message 14 of 19 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN NicknameKIMBO958Sent: 13/11/2008 2:09 a.m.
I am doing a little better today.
Thought you enjoy his latest email which I did not respond to.
This would be my life should I choose that path.
Since I am not responding to him.
 
I am a flirt.
I am a tease.
I don't communicate at all.
I send mixed messages.
He cannot commit to me because I dont understand him.
I ask too much of him to go out on a Saturday night.
He does not want to talk about the relationship face to face only via email.
He sees no reason why we can't have a threesome with another man. It is not about emotion. It is purely physical release. I should get over that and just deal with however I am feeling about it the next day.
and of course we all know SALAD.
 
 
 

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 Message 15 of 19 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN Nicknameblindfor35yearsSent: 13/11/2008 10:40 a.m.
Wow, Kim. That's a classic piece of projection!

Thinking of you again today and being so glad you're SO STRONG!

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 Message 16 of 19 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN NicknameKIMBO958Sent: 13/11/2008 10:44 a.m.
bLIND.
 
Thanks. I am moving this post to the new board.
 
Yes. Actually I am glad he did that. Makes it easier to move on.
 
Thanksfor your strength my friend.
Kim.

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 Message 17 of 19 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN Nicknameblindfor35yearsSent: 13/11/2008 10:54 a.m.
P.S.

George Washington slept all over New Jersey!

Here's a partial list:

http://www.hmdb.org/results.asp?SeriesID=9

It doesn't even mention the Princeton/Trenton area, where I presume he must also have slept, given that he famously crossed the Delaware from there.

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 Message 18 of 19 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN Nicknameblindfor35yearsSent: 13/11/2008 10:57 a.m.
Glad you're moving to the new board. I look forward to seeing your avatar. Will you be fierce? Cheeky? Peaceful? Humorous?

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 Message 19 of 19 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN NicknameKIMBO958Sent: 14/11/2008 10:36 a.m.
Blind
 
I will be itiskimbo
 
George Washington. - he had a famous battle there. also Afred Vail invented the telegraph in this town....
 
 

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