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 Message 1 of 29 in Discussion 
From: wondering1  (Original Message)Sent: 26/03/2008 6:02 p.m.
I wanted to see if any of the following sounds like NPD to any of you who actually know or have experienced it.
 
I'll make this as short as possible and just tell you I have been with my boyfriend for 3 years now. I know without a doubt he is suffering from some sort of personality disorder. Of course he says its all me but I apparently wasnt like this until I met him.
 
Ok, here it goes! He is controlling to an extreme, like no one I've ever known or heard of. It's control of even the slightest things like, where a bowl of cat food sits. The cat's food bowl MUST sit where he puts it, I didn't realize it was him who kept moving it, thinking it was one of the kids, I'd move it back to where it had sat for years. Only one day to discover he was the one moving it, I discovered this because he had what I call one of his "tantrums" calling me names, screaming, throwing things blah blah blah. And there are many many other stories like this one, just small things no one would think anything of cause him to have explosive anger.
He adores telling me, the kids and I are stupid illiterate idiots, even though he never managed to go further than the 8th grade in school, and when he quit at the end of his 8th grade year he was nearly 17! He will litterally tell me "you dumbasses only wish you were half as smart as me".
He will say shockingly hurtful things, sometimes I think so horrible it would even cause the devil to gasp. Like, he is glad our baby died, when it happened he was inconsolable but a year later in an effort to hurt me said he was glad? He will say terrible things about my dead mother, who he never even met.
He road rages, tries to run people down who clearly didnt mean to cut him off. Screams profanity at them, calls them fat or stupid or various other things. Things that maybe a normal person would honk or possibly yell, send him into a devilish rage.
Every "bad" thing that happens to him is my fault. When we decided to move in together, he moved to my home. He has been pulled over several times for speeding (he can never do the speed limit, it should be raised ya know) it's my fault he gets pulled over, if he hadnt moved to my hometown he wouldnt have been here at the precise time a cop was searching out speeding cars. The broken windshield in our car is my fault... had I not made him mad while he was in the car he wouldnt have punched it. But then had I not made him mad he wouldnt have broken the digital camera (stomped it into the floor which also broke a hole in the floor) he wouldnt have broken the dvd player, electric hedge trimmers, the grill, the entertainment center, holes in the doors and walls of nearly every room and on and on.
His reasoning for his rages..... If I had just done what I was told he wouldnt have to do and say those horrible things. I provoke him!
He avoids any and all responsible things even though I tell him due dates are near. He will put off until its too late then swear I didn't give him fair warning.
He is a chronic liar and over very stupid things, things a person would never dream of lieing about. Like recently all the cash that was in my purse was gone, I asked why he took everything I had. Of course he had no logical reason but said "I didnt spend any of it, its on the dresser" when in fact he had bought himself lunch with it and only mentioned that when I asked him for the money back and he didnt have the amount he took. He said "I'll have to owe you some" I asked why he would have to owe me if he hadnt spent any. And he says "well I did spend a little I just forgot". And this is a constant thing.
His memory is like that of an alzheimers patient, or his claims of not remembering anyway.
When I ask him something, ANYTHING, he acts as if I didn't even speak, he seldom replies. When I ask him to please answer me, he will swear up and down he answered I just didnt hear him. For a long time I thought "ok maybe my hearing isnt what it used to be" but now when I ask something, I stare dead at him to see if his lips move.. they DONT! but yet he still will swear he answers. Sometimes its as if I am not worthy of an answer.
He doesnt have one family member that he hasnt been in at least a verbal altercation with, this side of him is never shown to friends. It's a common thing to go to his family gatherings, in the back door and straight out the front because someone "ran their mouth" to him and pissed him off. Even though I have been within 2 ft of him and not heard anyone say anything offensive.
Sex with him is ALWAYS rough, sometimes its like he's acting out some violent fantasy. He never leaves me alone, 24/7 he's trying to have sex. But he is very affectionate although I'd almost swear the affection is only with the antisipation of sex.
He "punishes" me for my wrong doings, takes the car away from me, jerks out all phone lines, hides my debit card. He's broken EVERY gift he's ever given me. It never fails, he'll be mad within hours of giving me a gift and takes it back. Says I dont deserve "things".
If I ever EVER voice my opinion of something.. I'm running my mouth. If I ever question anything he does...I'm nosey.
Then there are statements that have no logic at all, my favorite of all is.... Our second child, a boy now 9 months old, is more related to him and his family. His mother, brother and nephews are closer blood relatives to MY son than I am... because genetically the fathers genes rule.
 
 
Now what I'd like to know is.. does any of this sound familiar of a N? My stories of this abusive bully could fill a book but you get the idea.


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From: XtraMSN Nickname•♫WindSong♫�?/nobr>Sent: 22/06/2008 7:59 a.m.
You stay in this relationship another year to five years and you are going to be dead or in an institution. Think about your kids and what this is doing to them. F*cked up father and mother who teaches them that basically abuse to that extreme is acceptable. They will be N magnets and they will either be abusers or abusee's. If you can not save you, save them for God's sake.
 
Get out now before you end up dead and your children mentally marked or dead too. This dude is nuts.
 
what is the price you are willing to pay?

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 Message 16 of 29 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN NicknameAnswers4WhySent: 22/06/2008 10:34 a.m.
Oh my God, you have got to get out and you have got to get out now. I don't even understand why you are still with this person. Because he's affectionate??? Honey, puppies are affectionate. If you want genuine affection with no strings attached, get a pet and get rid of this horrible horrible person.

To put it even more bluntly:

GET. OUT. NOW.

Right now, it does not even MATTER what his exact personality disorder is -- it could even be a combination of things. What is absolutely, chillingly, horrifically clear is this: He is an abuser, he cares nothing for you or your child, and you MUST get away from him.

It is a very small step from breaking material things to breaking people. That is the progression of abuse.

He will NOT change. He will only get WORSE. He will HURT you. He will HURT your child. Get OUT, get OUT, get OUT.

Please, for your own sake, for your child's sake, for your sanity and your health and your mental and emotional well being, for your safety, for every good potential thing that your future could hold without him, LEAVE him.

IF YOU CAN, do everything you can to protect yourself and your child, be smart about it and plan well and secure your finances and your livelihood and your possessions if you can, but if you can't do that immediately, don't wait!! It sounds like he is right on the verge of much worse behavior that could cause you or your child permanent injury or worse.

If it sounds like I am trying to scare you, I AM. Because your story has scared the crap out of me, and frankly everybody else on this board too. Your boyfriend is not a boyfriend, he is a total psycho who has managed to ensnare you somehow. You MUST know you are worth more than this, sweetie.

I can't say it enough. Get. Gone. He is a psycho and he is wrong about everything and nothing but insanity comes out of his mouth, and you know it. You know he is an abusive bully, you know he has a personality disorder, so why on God's green earth are you still with him??

Nevermind, don't even stop to wonder that now - wonder that later in therapy. And figure out just exactly what kind of psycho he is later, in therapy. Now, you need to focus on getting out. NOW.

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 Message 17 of 29 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN NicknameAnswers4WhySent: 22/06/2008 10:41 a.m.
Wondering -- Holy cow, I just realized how long ago your original post was.

I really hope you've gotten out by now, safely and well and with your body and soul intact...please update us if you ever get a chance. I hope you and your child are okay!!!

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 Message 18 of 29 in Discussion 
From: BajeshSent: 22/06/2008 6:38 p.m.
He sounds like he's leans more toward the antisocial personality disorder. But they are all in the cluster b of disorders. The counselor I saw says they usually have traits from all of them in the same cluster. (Narcisistic, histronic. antisocial, and ???) cant think of it. sorry.

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 Message 19 of 29 in Discussion 
From: had enoughSent: 24/06/2008 4:34 a.m.
Wondering,
If you don't have the wherewithall to get out for yourself, wake up girl, and get out to save your children. I grew up with a destructive n mother, and it was absolute hell. Realize that you are being abusive to your own children by keeping them in the same home as this person.
He is horribly abusive. Soul destroying. Give him an n lable, a psychopath label, antisocial, whatever it takes. Just label the you know what, and get yourself and your loved ones out. Don't leave the cat either.
I can tell you that there is nothing out there to fear than could be worse than staying with this man. You can start over and make a new life for yourself and your children. As I said earlier, save them. Think of them if not for yourself. No excuses, just go. No material possession is worth your lives.
There are shelters to go to where you will be safe.
A psychologist once asked me "how many times do you have to get slapped down until you've said "I've had enough?". I say the same to you, because it will never end with him until he either hurts you and your children enough or he dumps you for another prey.
I sound harsh here, however, I am with you.
Good luck and great big hugs and lots of courage,
Had Enough

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 Message 20 of 29 in Discussion 
From: sohappynowSent: 25/06/2008 1:08 a.m.
Hello
I am so so sorry!!!
This is soooo  BAD!!!!!
Please I have been there ...
If you just believe in yourself and re-read what you have written !
If it was some-one you loved
What would you say to them.!
 

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 Message 21 of 29 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN Nicknameangelsrfalling8Sent: 25/06/2008 10:58 p.m.
Wondering, I know it's been some time since your original post.  I really hope you've managed to get that piece of crap out of your life.  It sure would be good to hear something from you, just to know you and your kids are alright. 
 
I just shook my head when I read your story.  It was like my own.  The other posters are right.  It's just a matter of time until he really hurts you.  Mine did.  In every way he could: physically, emotionally and verbally.
 
That guy is some kind of sick creep to say what he did about your baby. 

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 Message 22 of 29 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN NicknameC3MercySent: 26/06/2008 11:21 p.m.
I'm not skilled to judge whether or not he's a narcissist but, get out, and run,run,run. Call the police to be there when you ask him to leave. Fifteen minutes after he leaves have a locksmith ready to change your locks. Then... remain single and alone until your children are raised. Some of us are not very good men pickers. You can do it! Your children will be happier and you will be too. GET OUT NOW! C3Mercy

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 Message 23 of 29 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN NicknamekyrajamesSent: 27/06/2008 3:40 p.m.
I really hope that you have left this relationship. I really do. If everything is your fault- his anger- what else is he going to do that is your fault? How much worse can this get for you? I would get out QUICK. Think about yourself. Think about your kids. You don't deserve this.

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 Message 24 of 29 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN NicknameNomosettlSent: 3/07/2008 5:56 a.m.
Wondering,
I believe you are in the company of a psychopath and you ought to get rid of him immediately.  What he is doing is called crazymaking.  Psychopaths are famous for it.  I don't know why you have not thrown him out already.  He will get worse, not better.  Counseling does not help these people, either. 
 
Have you read some of the links about psychopaths?  You need to educate yourself and protect your finances and, above all, get rid of the guy before he does worse damage.

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 Message 25 of 29 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN Nicknameww672Sent: 22/07/2008 2:23 p.m.
Hi wondering,
 
i guess this kind of stuff is not shocking to us who have encountered men like this -
but it's sad that you (and apparently many other women) are treated like this and for a prolonged time.  The length of time begins to create false truths in your mind - -
You said he was affectionate???  What the hell is that???  How can there be any affection coming from such a tyrant?? That alone tells me how incredibly sick this individual is.  The breaking things, the lying, the blame shifting, the ignoring .........
 
Most everyone here encouraged you to leave - - flat out told you to - -
You do need to end this nightmare.  I do understand there are economic / money reasons some women stay and then i'm sure psychological reasons.  But this picture you painted for us to see seems like a timebomb - - -
 
don't let it go off prior to you leaving
You said it was your place - - - is it a home that you own??
I don't think you'll be able to get him to leave -
sounds like you should sacrifice your apt if that's what it is and just take your child and yourself and leave. 
 
Sounds like you've sacrificed much more than that already my friend.
 
if you can write back - let us know how you're doing & that you're ok

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 Message 26 of 29 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN NicknameKitcat08Sent: 22/07/2008 9:20 p.m.
Wondering1 hasn't posted since the date of this post, 3-26-08.  I wonder if she is still wondering.  Coming out of denial can be very difficult.

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 Message 27 of 29 in Discussion 
From: had enoughSent: 24/07/2008 2:47 a.m.
Hi Wondering,
It doesn't really matter if he is a n or whatever. What really does matter is that you and your children are being used, devalued and abused.
He is ruining all your lives and you are staying with him because of what??
I mean, really now, what out there could be worse than staying and giving up your life and your children's lives?
You are teaching your children that it is o.k. to abuse someone by staying with this man.
You obviously are aware of what is wrong with him and the relationship. The difficult thing is to face what is wrong with you for staying with him and putting up with all of that. When you do face it, and put your focus on yourself, your children and getting out of there, then you will begin to be free of him.
When we are abused ,we learn to put all the focus on the abuser. It is him this, her this, he did or does that. In order to heal and be free, we have to begin to put ourselves and our feelings and desires first.
A psychologist asked me once, "How many times do you have to be slapped down before you say I've Had Enough". Well, I am pretty sorry to say it took a long time, however ,when it finally did happen, my life took on a whole new meaning. Being at peace and free of drama and sorrow is like living in heaven, and all it really takes to begin it is a new mindset. It can be done. You don't have to stay a prisoner of this relationship.
Hugs and a lot of "tough talk",
Had Enough

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 Message 28 of 29 in Discussion 
From: XtraMSN NicknameCricket_is_cute1Sent: 13/09/2008 2:49 a.m.
From my experience and education, this describes a person with Antisocial Personality Disorder (psychopath) and Narcissistic Personality Disorder. 
 
He is the crazy one, not you.  Get away as soon as you can. 

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 Message 29 of 29 in Discussion 
From: BonnieboySent: 25/09/2008 5:14 a.m.
My take is this...
GET RID OF THE SOB! 

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