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N Relatives : The last straw with my parents
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From: metrometro  (Original Message)Sent: 20/09/2008 3:04 p.m.
I have been on this board before, but it has been a while. Now I feel the need to write about the latest shocker (why am I even shocked by their behavior anymore?) that my parents have done.
 
For the past eight years, I have been with a wonderful man. For seven out of the eight years we have been together, we have very happily been living together. You would think that this action was solely done to rip out my parents' hearts and stomp on them because that is the way that they have treated it for seven years. My boyfriend has never had anything but kind words for them, but after being insulted and ignored numerous times by my parents and being treated like he is the evil person who destroyed their "little girl" and "corrupted her, he no longer wants to associate himself with them --- and I say more power to him. Nobody deserves to be treated like that. I have been told continuously for seven years by my parents everything from "you are going to Hell for the way you live" to "you are tearing me up inside". They use guilt as a weapon, and constantly remind me of the sacrifices that they made for me when I was a child, i.e. "We paid for your college education and look at the way you treat us!" and the most recent "How dare you talk to us that way! We sent you $75 for your birthday!"
 
About a month ago, my boyfriend proposed to me and we are getting married on 10/16. I thought my parents would ne thrilled by the news. I had this idea in my head that they would change their negative and insulting ways and we would finally have a relationship. I called my parents that very weekend and my mother wasn't home. I immediately told my father the news and his only response was, "Good. Your mother will be so happy." I got no congratulations. I was asked no details about the wedding. I was incredibly hurt. That whole week, my mother didn't even call me to congratulate me. I called her the following weekend. As soon as she picked up the phone, she went on one of her normal "poor me" tirades, talking about how a friend of my father's that I have never met passed away and about how my great aunt is failing and in the hospital. She went on & on for about 10 minutes until I finally interrupted her and asked her if my father told her I was getting married. Her response was, "Yes and I FORGOT! In fact, I was going to go to the Dollar Store to buy you a congratulations card!" I was so hurt and angry that I hung up the phone.
 
I sent my father a very angry e-mail telling him exactly how I feel and summarized how they have been hurting me with this sort of behavior all my life -- about how I can never be "good enough" for them and how I am through trying to be. I also mentioned how incredibly supportive and loving my boyfriend's parents have been since we have been together, and how his mother told me that I could have her wedding ring and she would even take me to get it reset so that it would fit me. I mentioned how never once in the eight years that we have been together have my boyfriend's parents said one hurtful or negative word about our relationship and how they have basically adopted me into their family.
 
What immediately followed my father receiving this e-mail was my father calling my SISTER --- NOT ME --- and screaming at her and telling her he is "done with the both of us" and reminding her that he is still paying off her student loans. Keep in mind that my younger sister was not involved in this situation at all, but my father called HER and reemed HER out for whatever unknown and crazy reason. My sister called me upset and told me what happened and I was furious. My sister and I are both very close. I consider her to be my best friend and we both have the same exact issues with our parents. I immediately called my parents and my mother picked up the phone. My father refused to speak to me. My mother kept telling me that I "need to learn how to accept and apology" and blamed a certain kind of medication that she takes for her bipolar disorder for forgetting my upcoming nuptuals. My mother always uses her bipolar disorder as an excuse and treats it as if it is terminal cancer. She constantly forgets important events that happen in my life, but she remembers when such-and-such random friend or relative got sick with such-and-such disease and remembers all of the people she knows who are in the hospital. She is obsessed with disease and death, yet ignores and downplays the great things that happen in both mine & my sister's lives.
 
During this conversation, my mother kept telling me to "get a grip" as I was going off on her and explaining why I was so angry with her. Once my mother had had enough of my very validated anger, she actually started singing "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA!!!" over the phone (like a LUNATIC!) and once she was through singing she asked me "Ellen, what do you want me to do? Play the violin for you?" referencing the fact that I was very hurt by her words and actions.
 
I have made a conscious decision that I will not speak with them for quite a long time. They are manipulative, nasty, and hurtful people. They always give me the "we're so proud of you!" speech, yet immediately turn around like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and run down the list of things that I do that hurt them. I feel like I have freed myself in a way by making this decision, but I am also very sad. Any advice or words of wisdom anybody can give would be most appreciated. Thank you.


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From: metrometroSent: 20/09/2008 3:05 p.m.
I would also like to add that my parents still look at me as a small child and are constantly asking "whatever happened to the precious little girl I had?" and pointing out how much I have "changed". Is this common for narcissistic parents?

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From: XtraMSN NicknameAnnieashley1Sent: 21/09/2008 3:34 a.m.
Dear Metro-
I am sorry you are having a hurtful time. But congratulations on your upcoming wedding! I am 49 yrs. old and just had a big one with my N dad today. I know the feeling of never measuring up. I too have a sister that i am very close to. It's good that you have each other. Have y'all ever been to family conseling? I hope you feel better!
Congrats!
Annie

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From: XtraMSN Nicknamesilverfleur936Sent: 1/10/2008 8:25 p.m.
dear metrometro,

i have been thinking i need to reply to your post for a while. i am so sorry for your parents' response to your engagement. i understand exactly how you feel. i want you to know there are more of us out here dealing with narcissists that can't handle the idea of their children marrying and becoming separate adults. out of curiosity, is your sister that you mention married? my parents also do the same thing with holding $ over our heads, no financial help or gifts were given freely, there were strings attached to everything, you always always owed them

my parents have a paranoid and hateful grudge against my aunt and uncle. i was fed up with playing by their rules and went to a big family christmas eve party at my aunt's house. (i have nothing against my aunt and uncle.) my now husband proposed to my on christmas day. when we went to my parents house for christmas dinner they said congratulations, but there was no feeling of excitement in the room. they didnt ask any details about how he asked me or when we might get married or about how we would like our wedding to be. the ony thing my mom really said, when my sister asked me if we knew when we might gat married, my mom goes, "some people stay engaged for a really long time." uh.. wtf? is that what she wanted? i was the oldest and first to get married. also it turned out that they supposedly couldnt muster any excitement for their first-born daughter being engaged because i had been a traitor and went to family xmas party at evil aunt's house. my sister even had her boyfriend there at my parents house for xmas dinner as well, and later he said that he would've gotten more excited about our engagement, but my parents were so drab and emotionless about it that it made him uncomfortable.

fast forward to a year later. we decided to elope for a couple of reasons - we wanted to buy a house and not spend $$$ on wedding (no one was going to help us pay for it - especially not my parents - no way) and also to not have to deal with my parents drama. it took me 3 days and 3 glasses of wine to all and tell my parents from our honeymoon b&b that we had gotten married. my mom said, "oh, wow. " basically. she didnt ask one goddamned detail about anything - what i wore, where it was, nothing. approximately her 2nd sentence in the conversations was this: "we went to see that rocky point movie the other day. it was really good." WHAT???

when we bought our house we didnt tell them we were looking or anything because they are party-poopers and parade rainers. when we did buy the house, on closing day, i called to tell them. Guess what we just did! we bought a house!!!" my father says "we just bought a car." a used $3000 beater, like all their cars. why the hell did he need to say that?

my sister recently got engaged and my mothers response to her was, "oh, you must really like him." and "that's good, because we have heard so many bad stories about your previous relationships." no asking about the ring, etc.

my dad is the narcissist. my mom is completely wrapped up in keeping him pleased and going along with his crazy ideas (he got the whole hating my aunt & uncle thing going and won't let it die.) anyhow, they have never encouraged their children to be autonomous, and instead of thinking of an marriage as a happy thing, they are more completely threatened and terrified that they won't have control over us anymore or something. my sister has been screamed at by my dad about their problems with me as well.

i have been no contact for almost a year. i went low contact when they started telling me who in the extended family i was allowed to like and who i had to hate (me as an extension of them, not allowed to have my own opinions) i went no contact after the wedding nonsense. my sister has just gone no contact as well. i feel better than ever about my own life. my sister is having a hard time right now, the guilt is the strongest at the beginning, but it lessens with time!

yes, my parents are upset i have changed as well. i have changed. i am sticking up for myself and protecting myself for a change and they hate it. they also think of my sister and i as children, even though we are 31 and 28 - far older than they were when they got married.

congratulations on your engagement, i hope you have a beautiful wedding and marriage. our parents have taken enough of our lives, it is time to live for ourselves! do you see a therapist? i would recommend it, as it has helped me to stay on the path i am on and work through guilt and feelings as they come up. it has taken me 2.5 yrs of therapy to get where i am today, free from their control and manipulation and guilt, and i wouldnt trade it for anything. good luck to you! :)

-silverfleur


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