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From: nettie  (Original Message)Sent: 28/10/2008 9:00 p.m.
Hi Everyone,
I originaly found this site through sheer desperation and made some lovely friends who helped me when I was in the depth of my relationship with my N. For all the good that was done on here I Still went back. HAD TOO???
Actually he kept drawing me in as they do. Having more understanding about who he was I did cope with it better and two years ago tHis New Year after having what I can call a Normal holiday with no hiccups and everything going well he dunped me for no reason on New Years day saying it wasnt going to work. What wasnt going to work? We had no arguments, a few happy shopping trips together for the Xmas period....he even came to my friends on Boxing Day which is unspeakable as he hates to socialise.
New Years Eve I had to go to his house for a quick visit. I wanted to spend time with people and Him....He wanted to sit in his dirt ridden house with gloomy lighting, no atmostphere and do nothing. Perhaps he didnt win after all and because he wasnt the main attraction of the night he couldnt stand the rejection. Who knows and who cares. I walked away from that not giving a toss anymore.
It was a matter of "oh well here we go again".
Since that time he found a new supply. A lovely looking Swedish girl. He fell in love, went to visit her a couple of times and then made her sell up and move over here to his dump. Then one day out of the blue he text ME. He had had enough of her and she was being sent home.
The suggestion of me meeting up with him did tempt me but I really couldnt be bothered for the sake of what he called "real sex".
The first reaction was that I was stil his main supply and should I be flattered. After all I knew him better then anyone ever will and still loved him. My head ruled my heart for a change.
He has made more attempts but I think I have made it clear by not bothering to contact him that he really needs to find another idiot to listen to his drolling on about himself and himself and himself. Well I do get a nod in now and then.
I watched a t.v programme the other night which was about NPD and Sam Vankin was on it talking about the condition and himself. It was enlightening and he was also quite funny. Its the first time I have looked at NPD as funny!!
My ex had all the points.....I think there was about 8 to be of the dangerous kind. Correct me if I am wrong. I shuld know by now, I have a whole file on it but choose not to dwell.
The reason why I am back is because the change in me as a person and my personality is totally different. I dont think I will ever get ME back.
I have moved on in some ways but as far as relationships are concerned.....its a dead end. I cant even be bothered to meet anyone even though I would love too.
I was told this when I was first on this site and like other relationships I have had no prblems moving on but its not even for the love of him its because I dont know who men are anymore.
It makes you so aware of everything and the fear that you may get into a relationship like that again is not worth it.
Constant reminders everywhere you go.......I am fine with being single for now.....I feel that I would like to help other sufferers and in that way I will probably regain myself back. Who knows?
Love to all.
Nettie.x


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From: XtraMSN NicknameWhatjusthappened0Sent: 28/10/2008 9:39 p.m.
Nettie,
 
Glad you're back. I'm new. I find your story very helpful. To see someone struggle as we all do and find once again, and N is an N is an N once again huh?
 
As for relationships, I have no desire either. I guess I would just say time is the best healer for you and me. Welcome back!!

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From: XtraMSN Nicknameearlybird224Sent: 28/10/2008 9:52 p.m.
Nettie,
 
It's great that you came back. You will get a lot of support here.
 
I'm not sure how to reply to your message because I'm not sure exactly what you want from us, but --
 
I can tell you that last night in my therapy group (which at the moment is all men plus me) we spent a good deal of time talking about the current financial crisis, and how irresponsible the people involved in it were, etc. etc. They were talking like "men" (e.g., no feelings, of course!) After awhile I asked our therapist what I was supposed to get out of all this. He described how we were actually talking about being our own advocate and trusting people, and he said to me that he hoped I wouldn't let the N stand in my way, that I would let myself open my heart to someone else despite the Ns horrendous manipulation.
 
So, I offer that to you. And also, that I am working with a different therapist, a pastoral counselor, who is really wonderful and comes from a different (but standard) approach (along with the spiritual aspect). Through the whole recovery process from the N, I realized that I really don't know who I am. My parents made me meet their needs and expectations to the extent that I never knew I had my own. As we discussed, I really don't know what makes me, me. I was allowed so few choices in developing what I liked to do and be and everything. She was so cute, she got all excited and said I had to find out what I like to eat (not a problem!) and what type of clothes I like, etc. and go back and lose all the parent stuff so I could find out who I am naturally. She asked who I might have been and what I might have done if my parents had nurtured me in any way.
 
She told me part of this was to pray to God to show me the "me" that God sees, and allow me to understand the gifts and preferences and abilities and everything that I was created with. I thought that was really special.
 
So, maybe those are some suggestions about what you can do for yourself. Don't fiill yourself up with this man (as I did). Learn how to fill yourself up with ... yourself!!
 
It takes time, but you can do it. Just keep focused.

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From: XtraMSN Nicknamebumpy_rider2Sent: 29/10/2008 12:56 a.m.
Getting out and realizing we don't know who we are anymore seems to be a common condition. Guess it's truly one of those life changing events.

I'm not the same person I was, because I don't even remember who I was, but life is good. I think Ns are few and far between, and the chances of meeting another one - which I could spot in a heartbeat - are pretty slim, so I was trusting enough to meet a terrific guy.

Be single for now and have fun, but don't ever be afraid should a nice one come along. It would be a crying shame if the N robbed you of that too.

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From: XtraMSN Nicknamenotagain0Sent: 29/10/2008 1:18 a.m.
Hi Nettie
Yesterday one of the members posted a good bye and for a while, I thought, why am I not feeling like saying good bye, ??? Why do I feel I need to come here, if only to read and very rarely post these days???
Well, I thought and thought about this and felt that the N experience has left me hollow. The first N is long gone from my life, my mind and my soul but I am out of the last one 18months and I just don't feel right. I remember who I was, and I am afraid I will never get there.
I think being here helps, helps in that we reassure ourselves of the little sanity we have left. It helps in knowing that we are not alone, it helps in knowing we are, although "hollow" in a better place.
Welcome back, and I personally hope to hear more about your journey as I am also lost in the same road.

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From: nettieSent: 29/10/2008 1:46 a.m.
WJH,
To be new to this kind of thing is horrible as you have so much to learn. I havent read your story but I will and I am sure that because you came on here you have had a really tough time.
To go over what I have been through would be too distressing for me to be honest but also when you are out of it, it all seems somewhat trivial. You wonder what was the problem at times (not all the time as it can be hell) but THEY affect you in a certain way that it can be something you find yourself telling your best mate and feeling like you have been to hell and back but when you are telling it its nothing!!
Its a silent murder of the soul...xx
 

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From: nettieSent: 29/10/2008 2:01 a.m.
Hi Earlybird,
 
I am not sure how long you have been on this site but I thank you for replying to my message tonight.
I want from this what everyone wants of course. Someone to talk too that has been there!
 
I am in London, England and religion is very varied as we have a large mixed race over here but from my point of view I do not have a religion as such. I know that sounds bad probably??? but whether in or out of a faith a person can believe as I do. I always feel bad when someone who is religious talks to me because I know they are passionate about their God.
 
There is someone who looks over me..I believe in something amnd even if something happens to me that is wrong I know there is an underlying reason and things will come out of it that are for the better.
 
Hmmm does that make sense?xx

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From: nettieSent: 29/10/2008 2:05 a.m.
Bumpy Rider2,
What a great name!!
I have four kids. All growing or grown up and I am loving being around them. They are and have always been my life. Too talk too them as adults and have fun with them is more then I9 need at the moment.
 
I want to find a nice guy one day when I have found myself again.
xxx

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From: nettieSent: 29/10/2008 2:20 a.m.
Hi Not again,
 
NOT AGAIN? That is the one thing we hope doesnt happen eh?
The thing is getting over the experience from the first time.
It takes time and I know that. Being the strong woman I am....but was more then...I will do it but have to take a totally different change to my life and thats what is so hard as I hate change. I am me in my house with my kids and HE has changed all that.
The worst thing is they age you through stress. I have always been more youthfull then my age. My kids and their friends still think so but inside I feel defeated.xx
 

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From: XtraMSN NicknameAlamobelle3Sent: 30/10/2008 12:29 a.m.

Must be something in the air - my sibling tried to revise history through his ex wife and my niece .

The ex wife got the shock of her life when she finished delivering the wingnuts BS to my niece and was informed that wingnut hadnt bothered to tell HER our mother had died a few months ago.

I dont think ex-wife will be carrying anymore messages to our
family from Richard Cranium .


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